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gymvol

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2021, 11:05:04 AM »


I'm beginning to think roadvol is either Fulmer or his wife. Being optimistic is one thing being blinded by the loyalty to the person is something else.

If any of you run your own business how long do you keep someone who isn't productive or can't do the job hired for. Is it three, four or five years?

The reason we got to this juncture is we kept giving Fulmer one more year that's how we ended up with Dooley.

Some of you must think this is like Tee Ball you get to stay at bat until you hit the ball.

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2021, 11:09:19 AM »
Quote from: roadvol on January 04, 2021, 11:01:16 AM
All three of the experts on coaching evaluations are on the board this morning.
I have a pressing question.
After being ranked 7th in the nation and unbeaten after 7 games the Vol basketball team lost Saturday .
My question is.....should we fire Barnes  today or wait until pre-game shoot around's Wednesday?

If Barnes had Pruitts winning percentage the last three years, yes but he hasn't it's one game.

You can't weasel out that easy comparing an Angel Food cake to a Fruit cake.  

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Re: Texas and Auburn fire winning coaches.
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2021, 11:14:59 AM »
Quote from: gymvol on January 04, 2021, 11:05:04 AM

I'm beginning to think roadvol is either Fulmer or his wife. Being optimistic is one thing being blinded by the loyalty to the person is something else.

If any of you run your own business how long do you keep someone who isn't productive or can't do the job hired for. Is it three, four or five years?

The reason we got to this juncture is we kept giving Fulmer one more year that's how we ended up with Dooley.

Some of you must think this is like Tee Ball you get to stay at bat until you hit the ball.


I'm serious Gym....should we fire Barnes today or wait until Wednesday?
After due consideration you must have extensive knowledge in evaluating coaches.
You obviously know more than Nick Saban who thought enough of Pruitt to make him a defensive coordinator, you obviously know more than Mark Richt who also hired him as DC.
Don't be modest....just  answer the question.  Calling me your usual immature silly names like Fulmer's wife, or a closet liberal is not an answer. .
Lend your expertise to the board....how quick should Barnes be fired? The world awaits your expert opinion.
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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2021, 11:17:16 AM »
Quote from: gymvol on January 04, 2021, 11:09:19 AM
If Barnes had Pruitts winning percentage the last three years, yes but he hasn't it's one game.

You can't weasel out that easy comparing an Angel Food cake to a Fruit cake. 

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Tired of playing this silly game.
 OK ..we fire Pruitt.
Put up or shut up.
Who do you hire to replace Pruitt and how do we pay to get rid of Pruitt and hire your dream coach?
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2021, 11:50:18 AM »
..you're the experts. You've been mouthing for months we should hire another football coach.
This is your opportunity to shine... You're now the AD.....who are you going to hire and how does UT afford to buyout Pruitt and hire a proven coach?  Please provide your financial plan for UTAD after gutting all of it's reserves.
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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2021, 10:00:15 PM »
Quote from: roadvol on January 04, 2021, 11:50:18 AM
..you're the experts. You've been mouthing for months we should hire another football coach.
This is your opportunity to shine... You're now the AD.....who are you going to hire and how does UT afford to buyout Pruitt and hire a proven coach?  Please provide your financial plan for UTAD after gutting all of it's reserves.
Who moved this thread and why?  Had a helluva time finding it.  

Well, we’re done paying Butch so that frees up some money.  We’re on the hook for about $830,000 already because of Pruitt firing his d line coach 4 weeks into the season.  Don’t know if that helped or not but the results would suggest it wouldn’t have mattered if we kept him.  

As for who I would hire, there are 2 proven former SEC coaches that I’d have more faith in than Pruitt at this juncture.  Freeze and Malzahn both have winning records and can tout that they can beat Bama, so there’s that.  But of course they have have their problems as well.  I’d do whatever I had to do to get either of them.  

You’re still missing the point though.  If I were hired as UT head coach tomorrow, I could put up just as good a record as Pruitt.  16-19 ain’t hard to pull off.  Just ask Derek Dooley.  15-21 is eerily similar.  
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2021, 09:26:54 AM »
Are you serious? You would hire Freese?
 You would fire him before he finishes a season. 
 He had a losing record in the SEC and left Ole Ms with 28 major violations. He didn't win anything since Ole Ms had to vacate all 33 wins he had at Ole Ms thanks to Freese. If you were AD...I would fire you...lol
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« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2021, 09:47:41 AM »
As an outsider, I can feel your pain.  It's very easy to get on the coaching carousel, hard to get off.  We fired our winningest coach (RC), but then flubbed his replacement, even though he had a good resume.  There is no such thing as a sure bet.  Fran was a disaster for us.  All programs suffer from this, even 'Bama.  Florida had Ron Zook, but got lucky with Urban.  Due to poor choices, A&M exited the B12 with a losing record, having done next to nothing from 2000-2011.  Always remember, in order for your team to get better, the other guy has to lose.  It's not a zero sum game.  So you either wait for your competition to wane or you outplay them, or both.  The scary part is that Saban could go another 10 years.  
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« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2021, 10:14:46 AM »
Quote from: roadvol on January 05, 2021, 09:26:54 AM
Are you serious? You would hire Freese?
 You would fire him before he finishes a season.
 He had a losing record in the SEC and left Ole Ms with 28 major violations. He didn't win anything since Ole Ms had to vacate all 33 wins he had at Ole Ms thanks to Freese. If you were AD...I would fire you...lol
Which is why he'd be a great hire.  He'd be under the microscope. 

And just in case you haven't been paying attention, we are drawing the attention of NCAA investigators under ya boy jeremy, so your point is null. 

Like I said, Freeze has proven he can beat Bama.  You can take it off the books but you can't take it out peoples (recruits) minds.  So yes I stand by my answer. 

Its funny that Freeze is the only part of my post you chose to comment on.  I guess you agree that I'd make just as good a coach as Pruitt.  
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