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utee94

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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #1246 on: November 22, 2025, 08:50:04 PM »
Ay-yi-yi! I've been typing "Mack Brown" when I meant "Darrell Royal." Sorry about that.
Ha!

Okay that makes more sense.

I really thought I might be losing my mind for a minute there!

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« Reply #1247 on: November 22, 2025, 10:41:03 PM »
I really thought I might be losing my mind for a minute there!

Heh! I thought that one of us was, but I wasn't sure which.

BTW, congrats on beating Arkansas. It was a pretty good game at halftime, but you guys really pulled away in the 2nd half.
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« Reply #1248 on: November 23, 2025, 12:25:40 AM »
Heh! I thought that one of us was, but I wasn't sure which.

BTW, congrats on beating Arkansas. It was a pretty good game at halftime, but you guys really pulled away in the 2nd half.
Back atcha against longtime Big8 foe Missouri.  I didn't get to see that game, tied up with family functions today, but the Sooner defense is dominating lately.  Glad we won't have to face y'all again this year. 

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« Reply #1249 on: November 23, 2025, 12:29:26 AM »
Wow, I think (THINK) I'd rather get blown out by Tennessee than "beat" Western Kentucky by 3.  LSU sucks as bad as we do.
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« Reply #1250 on: November 23, 2025, 12:46:30 PM »
College football is very weird, to me, and unpredictable.  I watched most of the Tech-Pitt game, it was ugly, for Tech, at home, with a sell out enthused crowd.  Pitt was up 28-0 at one point.  Tech tried to make a comeback but King threw an ill advised pass that turned into a 100 yard pick 6 making the score 35-14 instead of 28-21 or 28-17.

Tech's defense got them into a lot of trouble this year, their offfense bailed them out a few times.  Still, 9-2 is a decent year for Tech, soon to be 9-3 I hope after Friday.

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« Reply #1251 on: November 23, 2025, 01:04:35 PM »
Being not sold on Vandy quite yet, I watched the UK game sort of expecting a contest, which was not to be.  Vandy looked far better, and I expect may beat UT next week.

I have helmetitis with respect to both Vandy and Indiana.

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« Reply #1252 on: November 23, 2025, 06:25:06 PM »
I do hope that we are the stompers and not the stompees next week. Either way, I'm pretty sure that we will be in proper uniforms.

I had some vague hope that playing inspired and with some luck we could sneak out a win in Norman.

This operated on the notion that the offense regressing throughout the year had bottomed out.  It hasn't.  Saturday proved the offense is still getting worse by the week.

If our defense comes to play, OU is going to find it hard to score.  Depending on what kind of runner Mateer is.  As I say, they're not good at all defending running QBs.  Against all other comers, they've been as elite as I've seen this year.  

It also probably won't matter.  A fg will likely beat us next week.  Arkansas' defense is putrid.  WKU doesn't stock SEC talent.  We moved well at times on them, as we have most teams, but we're just allergic to converting yards to points.  They just can't do it.  

If the plan isn't good or the players have given up, OU will blow out us.  

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« Reply #1253 on: November 23, 2025, 06:32:41 PM »
Wow, I think (THINK) I'd rather get blown out by Tennessee than "beat" Western Kentucky by 3.  LSU sucks as bad as we do.

Our offense is the worst I have ever followed in all of my adult life.  I need to retract all my snarky comments over the years about Vanderbilt, Clanga, the Florida team where two OLs blocked each other....anybody else I slighted.  They never came close to whatever this is.  

It's not enough to not help the scoreboard against WKU, they actively had to hurt it in this one.  Not sure if you saw any of it, but leading 13-3 at about the 1:33 mark, LSU was driving (again) down in the redzone (again) and then came up with yet another brand new way to screw it up (again), this time by the RB fumbling when all we're trying to do is run out the clock, and allowing WKU to pick it up and run it all the way back.  They then had to survive the onside kick attempt to try to end the game, again.  

"Sucks" is too generous a description for this offense.  

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« Reply #1254 on: November 23, 2025, 07:01:01 PM »
Back atcha against longtime Big8 foe Missouri.  I didn't get to see that game, tied up with family functions today, but the Sooner defense is dominating lately.  Glad we won't have to face y'all again this year.

Thanks!

It's a good thing our defense is as good as it is, because the offense sure isn't contributing much. Fortunately, it has not been turning the ball over lately.

Lincoln Riley took 3 Sooner teams to the old 4-team CFP and he lost in the first game every time. He had offenses for the ages, led by 2 Heisman-winning and one Heisman-runner-up QB (Mayfield, Murray, and Hurts), but lousy defenses. Now we've got the opposite, a great defense and an offense that, on a good day, doesn't turn the ball over and doesn't self-destruct. We also have really good special teams play. So, assuming that we get by LSU and into the CFP, we'll see how far a team built like that can go. Not far, I'm thinking.

You guys caught us at our worst in the RRS. But I'm not confident that the W/L result would have been different even had John Mateer not been injured in our game with Auburn.
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« Reply #1255 on: November 24, 2025, 01:40:16 PM »
JFC, somebody vet these Georgia players and their driving skills before they get recruited. 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47086327/uga-dismisses-ol-nyier-daniels-police-chase-tied-mom

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« Reply #1256 on: November 24, 2025, 02:36:19 PM »
"Y'all can't drive" was the best part of that story. 

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« Reply #1257 on: Today at 04:14:49 PM »
Continuing an earlier conversation with @Gigem  that started on the SEC Championship thread.....  may be of some interest to @CWSooner  as well.....

Because there is no one else in the office and I have literally nothing to do today, I punched up that historically lopsided 77-0 2003 affair between OU and A&M to see what, exactly, goes into an outlier like that.  It's a weird game to watch retrospectively. 

With the final score already being reached and 8:40 left in the 4th quarter, OU had 1st and goal at the 3 yard line, and I thought, how do they not score again?  The QB kneels the ball on first down, which seems to answer the question, but then, bizarrely, OU runs it up the middle for the next three plays, somewhat lacklusterly I have to say, and with mostly backup linemen, and A&M makes the stop.  If you're going to kneel the ball, then just kneel the ball.  If you're going to run the ball, just run the ball.  Doing one after the other was just weird.  

Up 49-0 at the half, OU benched QB Jason White and played Paul Thompson the entire second half, which I did not remember.  So they were already taking their foot off the brake in one way.  The problem was that Thompson was pretty good running the option and while they mostly quit throwing it, A&M's defense was just as hapless against the second string QB as they were the first.  

A&M did not look slow, as I remembered.  Really just one guy for OU, WR Mark Clayton, had a few plays where he outran would-be tacklers, but it mostly looked like Clayton was just really, really fast, and one or two plays in particular, he kinda broke the ankles of his defenders with some really good jukes.  Mostly A&M just looked out of position, with awful tackling, and there were some plays when the front 7 was flat overpowered by the Sooner O-linemen.  I have to say, OU executed really well, which seemed to be the biggest explanation to combine with A&M's severe defensive growing pains, but they certainly weren't schematically complex, neither did they look like athletic freaks.  Not any more than we're used to seeing from good teams, anyway.  And this was before Gus Malzahn had infected the world with his HUNH, and one of the most striking things about the game was just how much time each team took between plays.  In other words--with all due respect to that Sooner team--that offense looked a bit vanilla.  A well-oiled machine, but vanilla.  By today's standards, anyway.  The commentators mentioned a few times that A&M was in the low 70's nationally in defense and how young and rebuilt that unit was, so....there's that.  

Also, the Sooner offense only scored 70.  The final TD came on an A&M fumble with an ensuing scoop-and-score.  

The Sooner defense was a bit more impressive, I thought.  But A&M also gave them a lot of gifts.  McNeal was off target a bunch, receivers dropped some passes, and the OL struggled with assignments against even mundane Sooner fronts.  Like their OL counterparts, the Aggie DL also looked overwhelmed at times.  It was so weird....A&M didn't look that far removed from OU talent-wise, but OU was clearly somewhat better on the lines and played a nearly flawless game, such that each individual play you wouldn't be expecting this score, but it was just so consistent that it all added up.  That's my takeaway watching that again, the two teams were really consistent.  A&M consistently couldn't open the holes, OU could.  A&M consistently didn't allow enough time on passing downs, OU did.  Jason White nailed his reads and threw a good ball nearly every play.  Reggie McNeal missed stuff that was there with either bad reads or bad throws, and he never really snapped out of it.  

To me, it was less of a bludgeoning and more like death by a thousand paper cuts.  Granted, it was like paper cuts coming in 8 and 9 yards a pop.  But they didn't go out there and air-raid the hell out of A&M with two-play drives and such.  They just kept having good plays and never really had bad ones.  That is highly irregular for any game, and it shows me just how irregular it is, because if a team can do all the little things right that often, you can historically romp on a team that's somewhere between bad and mediocre.

The booth announcers and the halftime crew (including Craig James (CJK5H)) did a fair bit of slobbering over how wide the separation was between OU and everyone else.  There was speculation about who would make it to the Sugar in the BCS to play them.  LSU, at #7 as of that game, never came up.  One guy speculated USC.  Every team that was mentioned wasn't given much of a chance, or was repeatedly said to need big improvements between now and then.  The GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME did come up at least twice during the broadcast.  I honestly don't know what kind of talent KSU had that year, but the Big 12 CG is less shocking to me now, having rewatched this one.  OU looked like a talented, clean-playing team, but one that was a bit vanilla and even, I have to say, kinda low energy.  Like, modern UGA teams would've beat those guys just from the sheer vibrations emitted from their excited, barking bodies.  OU looked good, but not amped up at all.  I wonder if that personality hurt the team in their later losses.  

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« Reply #1258 on: Today at 04:52:44 PM »
I'd think the OU QB was told by his coach not to just kneel the ball. Even if everyone knew what you were doing, it's humiliating to have the other team just give it up. Running an A gap dive and falling over on contact sells it better.

I want to say that A&M won the game the previous year, and possibly some players were less than gracious in victory. Stoops made his point. Mind like a sieve though.

Not the same thing a'tall, but I've been on several soccer teams where the issue was decided quickly in a game. One team had no chance of keeping up with the other. The sporting thing to do then is to cycle the ball around and not shoot unless given no other option. Dribbling the ball towards an open net, then dribbling back out again is chinchy. 

Soccer and football have the benefit of a clock. You know it'll end eventually. Several high school baseball games can be stuck for pitchers. The score is already in the twenties, and the only way to end it is by recording outs. The strike zone expands to be "if you could have reached it with the bat". You start stealing bases way late and at less than top speed. You still show effort, but maybe not the best decision making.

Play the game long enough, and you'll be on both sides.

 

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