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utee94

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2024, 09:39:42 AM »
OU is not as good as Texas this year. But being the better team in the RRS has often meant getting outplayed by a fired-up opponent. OU has lost to inferior Texas teams and OU has beaten superior Texas teams.
Neither program ever concedes anything where the RRS is concerned.
Yup on paper Texas should beat OU.

On paper Texas should have beaten OU last year, too.

And plenty of years when better OU teams lost to inferior Texas teams as well.

I'm expecting a slobberknocker on Saturday.

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2024, 10:13:23 AM »
Kinda related, Auburn seems to give UGA and Bama problems when the teams appear to be mismatched in talent.  The latter is a rivalry game of some note, and the one with UGA is a rivalry game for those fans, not as much of one nationally of course.  A lot of teams have one principle rival, OSU-UM etc.  I think of UGA's rivals as being Auburn/UF/Tenn.... Tech, in about equal proportions for the first three.  

And yes, Texas is favored over OU again this year by about 8 points, which means they will win about 70% of the time based on history.  So, it's not by any means near certain.

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2024, 10:44:55 AM »
I was hoping Arkansas and A&M would remain hapless and underperform their talent, so that Ole Miss would be our only loss in October and help our (increasingly un)realistic goal of getting to 9-3.

In the overreactions of College Football, Texas A&M was largely written off after their Week 1 loss (much like Clemson). But after a few weeks of hard work, look at the Aggies now. Earlier wins over Florida and Arkansas look better by the week. Missouri was mauled. And the remainder of their schedule leading into the Longhorns finale looks favorable for a lasting run into the Top 10.

I wasn't high on A&M rushing out to hire Mike Elko, but you can see his week by week improvements adding up.

ESPN's Matt Barrie had this to say to Finebaum about A&M on his show: "Instead of A&M falling into the trap of celebrity coach again, and style coach again, and winning-the-press-conference coach again, all they did was get a damn good football coach — a blue collar guy that's into the substance. Not the style — he doesn't care about the chains and the celebrity and the glitz and the glamour...and I think ultimately that's going to be what carries Elko and A&M into the future. He's going to recruit a hard-nosed, blue-collar type of player that Jimbo wasn't necessarily going to care about because Jimbo loves star rankings. Mike Elko — he might like talent but he likes guys that're gonna get up there and whoop your ass and we saw it on Saturday."



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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2024, 11:41:49 AM »
Hy, if Saturday taught us anything, it's that even a huge favorite can be upset at any time.  So buck up, camper!

Last time Ole Miss came to town, I didn't give LSU much chance of winning that one either.  For a quarter and a half I was right, with the Rebs jumping out to a 17-3 lead, before everything changed and the Tigers went on to outscore them 42-3 from there.  So I've been wrong about this game before.

Of course, that was largely due to a player on each side of the ball who is no longer with the team.  Don't know where the unexpected magic could come from this year, but there's always Hope!*




*she's a recurring character in the SEC Shorts videos.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2024, 11:43:17 AM »
I wasn't high on A&M rushing out to hire Mike Elko, but you can see his week by week improvements adding up.

I thought it was a good hire, and if he does well there I won't be surprised.

That said, my track record with coaches I thought would do well at a school has been abysmal for 6-7 years now.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2024, 12:48:04 PM »
I wonder if betting the "dog" consistently is a winning approach.
Back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, I read an article in Playboy about betting on the NFL. (Yes, I looked at the pictures too.)
First of all, said the article, don't bet on college football because it's too unpredictable.
It also said the betting on home dogs in the NFL would win more often than not.
But the Earth has made many trips around the Sun since then.
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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2024, 02:26:07 PM »
Anecdotally, I've found cfb to be far more predictable than the nfl.  The disparity in talent is minimal in the pros compared to college, and it's a matter of course to see "better" teams lose to "worse" ones.  Cfb seems much more pronounced in its tiers, and usually the "better" team wins.  

Alabama/Vandy is hilarious and interesting precisely because it's rare. 

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2024, 03:51:54 PM »
Nobody "rushed" out to hire Elko.  Rumors were swirling hard that we were hiring Mike Stoops.  I think once the fan reaction was so bleh they pulled the plug on that, kinda like Leach to UTenn a few years ago.  

Elko was a known commodity here, he was Jimbo's DC for his first 3-4 years, he left two years ago to take over Duke and has been solid there.  

I like Elko a lot, it's been sharply noticed how much better the team has played since he took over from Jimbo.  The speculation is that Jimbo has been simply been checked out since the end of the 2020 season, about the time we gave him a blank check for 10 years.  

I'm liking the hire so far, we do best IMO with the non-flashy coaches who are defensively minded, who we haven't had since RC was unceremoniously fired after the 2002 season.  And, Elko brought in some nice offensive coaches as well.  The one area that is vastly improved is the OL.  Our previous OL, Steve Addazzio, was considered horrible by many fans.  The OL before that was well regarded, I can't recall his name or why he left but it's no secret we couldn't keep a QB healthy under center for 3 straight years.  

I think it might have been Jim Turner, who was also the OL coach under Sherman here and coached in the NFL.  We also lost our S&C coach back to OU about that time (2021).  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2024, 06:21:38 PM »
Anecdotally, I've found cfb to be far more predictable than the nfl.  The disparity in talent is minimal in the pros compared to college, and it's a matter of course to see "better" teams lose to "worse" ones.  Cfb seems much more pronounced in its tiers, and usually the "better" team wins. 

Alabama/Vandy is hilarious and interesting precisely because it's rare.
I think I remember that the big point-spreads were part of the problem with betting CFB, per the Playboy article.
I have no personal experience betting on football games.
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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2024, 06:40:48 PM »
There is a very solid relationship between point spreads and odds of the underdog winning.  My link no longer works though.  Obviously, if someone could beat the "odds" and the vig, they'd keep is quiet and just do it.  House money etc.

An 8 point dog wins about 30% of the time.


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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2024, 06:46:02 PM »

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2024, 11:13:30 PM »
I think college is easier to bet because they're more prone to letdown games.  I don't have the data, but I bet there's many fewer big favorites covering noon games, at least in the SEC.  And there may really be something to the 2-timezone thing in the newfangled Big Ten.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2024, 11:14:41 PM »
Oh, and Steve Addazio should never coach anything, anywhere.  

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Re: SEC Rankings
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2024, 07:17:06 AM »
Agree about Addazio. 

 

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