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Texas A&M is credited (retroactively) with winning the MNC in 1917 (or 1919 I get them confused), 1927, and the real AP Title in 1939 (which for some reason years later I found we share with USC).  At one time the retroactive titles were up on the wall at Kyle Field (after our entry to the SEC to match the Gumps) but I don't know if they're still featured. 

Just curious, and I'm too lazy to look up the list, what other championships is Texas (or LSU or OU or Neb) credited with winning (retroactively of course). 

Texas claims 4 that I know (two in the 60's, 1970, and 2005). 

LSU I think has like 1957, 2003, 2007, and 2019.

I'm not sure how A&M would be sharing the 1939 MNC with USC. The Ags were AP champs and the UPI (coaches) poll did not begin until 1950. Per the NCAA (https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history), USC did not win any of the minor polls either.
Check that, the "Dickinson System" proclaimed USC #1 and USC does claim that as a Natty.
The only retroactive MNC that I know of is Oklahoma State's for 1945. A few years ago, the AFCA (which produces the Coaches' Poll) announced that it would consider retroactive claims for 1922-1949 MNCs. FOSU (then OAMC) claimed 1945, and the AFCA accepted the claim.
It is my understanding that FOSU is the only school that made a claim for a retroactive AFCA championship. Maybe that's not true, but, if it isn't, it should be.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickinson_System

It’s dubious at best. It didn’t run all that long. And I don’t think it was taken very seriously except by the teams that finished #1. Apparently they named their Trophy after Knute Rockney at some point to give it some legitimacy. 

I’m not really sure I’d call it a shared title, and I never even heard about USCs claims to it.  But in the early 2000’s ( 2004 as I recall ) the started recognizing it. Not even sure how legit the Dickinson system was even back in the day.

Well, the NCAA's list for 1939 only lists the Ags, and since utee says that's my list, and I say my lists are the best and only ones worth adhering to, that makes A&M the undisputed, absolute, no-question-about-it, sole, stand-alone, Greatest Team Of All Time For 1939.  

The long offseason begins.  Wish it hadn't happened so abruptly but I guess that's true every year.  It'll be a different team next year with Ewers moving on and Manning taking over.  Maybe that'll be a good thing, we'll find out.

Yeah it was tough to watch.  So many ways Texas could have won that game, and yet here we are.  I really have no desire to talk about it, or really to think about football at all.  I won't be watching the championship game and I can't even bring myself to watch the NFL.  

It'll pass but right now, football is dead to me.

1966 Alabama should be given NC status.  2-time defending champ and went undefeated. 
1994 Penn State should be given NC status.
1960 Ole Miss


Those three flat out deserve it.  I don't find their cases at all controversial if you could do it.  OM and Bama's situations are likely due to southern racism.  Penalizing a college football team due to that.  It's gross.


Others that deserve it, but would get push-back:
1983 Auburn
2004 Auburn
1984 Washington, Florida, or Oklahoma, just pick one
1977 Alabama (same situation as 83 Auburn).  #5 beats #1, passes #3 who won their bowl.

Well, remember, the NCAA does not award a NC in D1 football. It’s essentially a gentlemen’s agreement, and a beauty pageant. Even now, the AP could award the final #1 ranking to someone else ( however unlikely) and it would be legit.