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Topic: OT-- What song's on your mind right now?

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Re: OT-- What song's on your mind right now?
« Reply #2228 on: September 30, 2024, 10:39:59 PM »
RIP, one of my favorite singer/songwriters of all time.

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Re: OT-- What song's on your mind right now?
« Reply #2229 on: October 01, 2024, 01:18:48 PM »
He changed Nashville from "Your Cheatin' Heart" to "Help Me Make it Through the Night."

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« Reply #2230 on: October 01, 2024, 01:33:52 PM »
A slight correction, he didn't really change Nashville.  Nashville remained as it was, doing the same things it had been doing.

He was part of the Outlaw Country movement, along with Willie and Waylon, who were notable for their rejection of Nashville and determination to create a genre of country music all their own.

Outlaw country was incremental to Nashville, or more to the point, an alternative to it.



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« Reply #2231 on: October 02, 2024, 07:03:10 PM »
A slight correction, he didn't really change Nashville.  Nashville remained as it was, doing the same things it had been doing.

He was part of the Outlaw Country movement, along with Willie and Waylon, who were notable for their rejection of Nashville and determination to create a genre of country music all their own.

Outlaw country was incremental to Nashville, or more to the point, an alternative to it.
The Houston Chronicle says otherwise.

https://eedition.houstonchronicle.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=215d085f-2215-4976-95ee-a9a421295a0b&share=true
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« Reply #2232 on: October 02, 2024, 07:35:19 PM »
The Houston Chronicle says otherwise.

https://eedition.houstonchronicle.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=215d085f-2215-4976-95ee-a9a421295a0b&share=true

Puff piece.  What did the mainstream studios in Nashville either start doing, or stop doing, as a result of Kris Kristofferson's influence?  Nothing.

Outlaw country which was included in the broader movement called Progressive Country was incremental to Nashville, and for many people a welcome alternative to Nashville.  But it certainly didn't stop the Nashville studios from pumping out the same old crap they always had.

Heck, the modern Bro Country movement is just the current evolution of The Nashville Sound from all those decades ago.  Heartless, soulless mumbo jumbo.  No thanks.

A  much better and more interesting article wouldn't have made the erroneous assertion that Kristofferson changed Nashville, it would have explored the ways he and his friends and colleagues circumvented and superseded Nashville, creating better music without toiling under the thumb of the Nashville studios.


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« Reply #2233 on: October 04, 2024, 08:50:06 AM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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« Reply #2235 on: October 10, 2024, 07:02:19 PM »
Puff piece.  What did the mainstream studios in Nashville either start doing, or stop doing, as a result of Kris Kristofferson's influence?  Nothing.

Outlaw country which was included in the broader movement called Progressive Country was incremental to Nashville, and for many people a welcome alternative to Nashville.  But it certainly didn't stop the Nashville studios from pumping out the same old crap they always had.

Heck, the modern Bro Country movement is just the current evolution of The Nashville Sound from all those decades ago.  Heartless, soulless mumbo jumbo.  No thanks.

A  much better and more interesting article wouldn't have made the erroneous assertion that Kristofferson changed Nashville, it would have explored the ways he and his friends and colleagues circumvented and superseded Nashville, creating better music without toiling under the thumb of the Nashville studios.
Would you accept the premise that he "changed country music"?
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« Reply #2236 on: October 11, 2024, 08:39:51 AM »
Would you accept the premise that he "changed country music"?
Yeah for sure.  He did, plus some of his colleagues.  They created an entirely new branch of it, and I'd argue that the branch they created still exists and became the basis for some of the "alt country" that we hear today.

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« Reply #2237 on: October 12, 2024, 07:21:36 PM »
That's sort of how I took the "changed Nashville" claim. I wasn't thinking about the alternate centers of country music.
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