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« Reply #5600 on: June 04, 2024, 12:05:06 PM »
I'm not a big enough follower of Texas beisbol to speak authoritatively, so I'll consult the hive-mind:

Any hope for Pierce to continue as Texas head coach? He seems to be the victim of a stream of uniquely unfortunate circumstances.

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« Reply #5601 on: June 04, 2024, 12:25:20 PM »
There's a lot of talk about booting him.  Just depends on who's available and interested, you don't want to fire him and then replace him with someone who's the same or worse, which is true for a lot of the names I'm hearing.

But personally, I think he's peaked and while it's possible he could get back to Omaha, I just don't think he will ever win there.  

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« Reply #5602 on: June 04, 2024, 01:41:11 PM »
I would agree if he had the horses and it was just a case of mismanagement

Id give him at least one more year

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« Reply #5603 on: June 04, 2024, 02:01:05 PM »
Not having the horses, is on the team manager.

This was probably the worst pitching staff I've seen at Texas in a couple of decades.  And there was a little bad luck but it's not like we lost half our starters to tommy john surgery before the season.  When that actually happened a few years back, the pitching staff was STILL better than this one...


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« Reply #5604 on: June 04, 2024, 03:07:36 PM »
Not having the horses, is on the team manager.

This was probably the worst pitching staff I've seen at Texas in a couple of decades.  And there was a little bad luck but it's not like we lost half our starters to tommy john surgery before the season.  When that actually happened a few years back, the pitching staff was STILL better than this one...


I think your point has some merit but to totally put the quality of players on the back of the  manager is a bit much

If anything this Manager did a great job of getting the most out of his players


Id give him one more year to see if he can fix the pitching problems

AS you said above its a big deal to start replacing managers
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« Reply #5605 on: June 04, 2024, 03:55:07 PM »
I think your point has some merit but to totally put the quality of players on the back of the  manager is a bit much

If anything this Manager did a great job of getting the most out of his players


Id give him one more year to see if he can fix the pitching problems

AS you said above its a big deal to start replacing managers
Yup I definitely wouldn't even consider it unless you already knew who your next guy was, and had already had successful preliminary talks with his agents.  You know, the way they fired Tom Herman and already had Sarkisian lined up.

Del Conte has proven to be very good at selecting and hiring head coaches, both at TCU and at Texas.  And David Pierce is one of the few remaining Texas coaches who was NOT hired by CDC.  That's got to be weighing pretty heavily on the scales right now...

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« Reply #5606 on: June 04, 2024, 04:18:06 PM »
Appreciate the input. Obviously coaching college ball has a particular terror, in that if you recruit players that are "too good", they get drafted out of high school and go straight to an MLB farm club. Keeping players around is tough. I know that.

Firing a coach because he's losing is easy enough. To your point, you gotta replace him with someone who's willing to be hired. You gotta believe the new guy will do better.

Pierce just seemed to arrive with a good situation, didn't do anything with it, then continues to start the season in worse and worse conditions. Bumbling through the Big 12 (the teams aren't milquetoast by any means), then bowing out of the NCAA field seems to be his act. The SEC seems to be much more cutthroat.

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« Reply #5607 on: June 04, 2024, 04:48:20 PM »


Pierce just seemed to arrive with a good situation, didn't do anything with it, then continues to start the season in worse and worse conditions. Bumbling through the Big 12 (the teams aren't milquetoast by any means), then bowing out of the NCAA field seems to be his act. The SEC seems to be much more cutthroat.
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DP has coached at UT 8 years
Throwing out 2019 and 2020 because of covid that leaves 6 years
He has taken the Horns to the WS 3 of those 6 years



The Horns 2024 recruiting class ranks 3rd in the nation



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« Reply #5608 on: June 04, 2024, 05:10:10 PM »
Oklahoma just hit a walkoff home run to top Florida and will meet Texas for the championship series starting tomorrow


At least the women are showing up
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« Reply #5609 on: June 04, 2024, 05:49:09 PM »


ou sucks.  BTHO schooner!

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« Reply #5610 on: June 06, 2024, 10:58:41 PM »
Coming into the WCWS finals, I thought Texas was better and would likely win. Texas sailed through its half of the bracket, whereas OU had to win an elimination game against Florida to get to the finals.

Didn't turn out that way.

Congrats to the Lady Horns for a great season, even with the disappointment at the end.
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« Reply #5611 on: June 07, 2024, 12:02:39 AM »
Thanks CW

Congratulations to the sooners 

The SEC folks ought to be very happy tonight

Did you know that a 70 mph pitch in softball is equivalent to a MLB pitch of 98 mph to the batter

just thought that was interesting that these women batters are facing a pretty good challenge
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« Reply #5612 on: June 07, 2024, 01:06:57 AM »
Thanks CW

Congratulations to the sooners

The SEC folks ought to be very happy tonight

Did you know that a 70 mph pitch in softball is equivalent to a MLB pitch of 98 mph to the batter

just thought that was interesting that these women batters are facing a pretty good challenge
I've seen a video of former OU pitcher Hope Trauwein pitching a softball to some MLB hitters. They had trouble making solid contact.
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« Reply #5613 on: June 07, 2024, 01:23:22 AM »
I'm sure the softball Sooners will take a major step backwards next year. Heck, they took a measurable step back this year. This was the least dominant team of the last four. (Or maybe some other teams, like Texas and oSu, got better.) Losing Jordy Bahl to Nebraska hurt.

I caught something in the ESPN coverage this evening that I did not know.

The last four seasons (I think that's what they meant when they said, "This senior class), the Sooners have not been shut out and have not been run-ruled. They've led the country in win percentage and have won 4 WCWS championships (in OKC, of course!).

Maybe the ESPN ladies meant five (or six) years back, though. Five years back was the abbreviated Covid season.

A great senior class marches off the stage. We'll see what next year brings.


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