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OL was pretty disappointing overall.  According to my sauces, this stood to be the best ol texas fielded in some time.  They didn't get much push in the run game on the day.  I think the issue was part technical and part hustle, not so much talent.  If there's another rematch I'd expect them to do better, we'll see. 

Corngrats to the Boomers

There were a few things.  First, the Sooner DBs were told to play hard and physical and dare the refs to call PI.  There weren't many times when Horn WRs were open.  Second, there were a lot of drops.  Sam dropped some absolute dimes over good coverage and the WRs didn't make the catch. Third, the Sooners used a lot of twists and stunts that worked.  A lot of times they were using a 3 man rush and dropping eight and still getting to Sam.  Lastly, the Longhorn running game just wasn't a threat.  Outside of Johnson's 57 yard run, the Horns had 43 yards on 35 carries.  The 9 sacks and 15 TFLs made the Horns pretty one dimensional.

I was not really wanting to be the one to bring this up.

It's tough to catch a pass with one hand. When your other arm is pinned down by the DB, that's usually DPI.
I'm furious that the Texas defense repeatedly played 3 on the line - enabling the beleaguered Sooner OL to stand there and watch. When Texas did go out of character and actually press the edge, the Tackles simply grabbed and held on. This, again, seemed to be perfectly OK with the stripes. Perhaps Texas should have tried it as well.

The Sooners seemed to remember Mike Leach's adage of "they're not going to call it every time". This is my favorite Big 12 officiating crew, and I have to be emphatic at saying the loss had nothing to do with the refs. If we're lucky enough to earn a rematch, though, I want Texas to work harder at forcing the issue.

The sooner defense definitely wanted to test the waters.  And it paid off.

I don't like the NFL PI "spot foul" rule, and I feel like the college 15-yard penalty is not influential enough.  Still seems like college should have more incentive to avoid PI.

Well, the refs would have to call it, first.  That would be the first stab at deterrence.

OU's o-line has held profusely since Mike Leach first installed it.  And they've not been called for it.  There's a certain point where, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  I will say that I noticed our o-line holding some in the game this year, and don't recall them getting called for it either.  So perhaps we're starting to go there.

It's no different than the soccer-flopping, really.  Just another technique to get an edge, and if it's not going to have any negative consequences, why wouldn't you do it?

Sucks but that's the way it is.  Sportsmanship is long gone.

Texas had a poor game plan and made up for it with terrible execution, no doubt.  

I'm hopeful that we're not in the same situation we were with Mack Brown/Bob Stoops, where we have a reasonably good coach who just isn't anywhere near as good as our rival's.

But I have my doubts right now.  That Texas team was woefully unprepared and poorly coached on Saturday.

Well, the refs would have to call it, first.  That would be the first stab at deterrence.

OU's o-line has held profusely since Mike Leach first installed it.  And they've not been called for it.  There's a certain point where, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  I will say that I noticed our o-line holding some in the game this year, and don't recall them getting called for it either.  So perhaps we're starting to go there.

It's no different than the soccer-flopping, really.  Just another technique to get an edge, and if it's not going to have any negative consequences, why wouldn't you do it?

Sucks but that's the way it is.  Sportsmanship is long gone.

Did you see the Texas DB (IIRC) who was holding his elbow as if he were injured during an OU drive in the 4th quarter?  The clock stopped for him to depart.  And he rolled over, put all his weight on that same elbow, got up, and went off the field.  OU fans all think he was faking an injury.  Was he?  I have no idea.  But it looked odd, so it's possible that he was.
As I said to TAFKAD on the holding, it's always easier to see those violations (or suspected violations) when it's the other side doing it.
And it's up to the officials to stop them from getting away with it.
Personally, I'd favor going back to the day when any use of hands by the OL was holding.  But now it's subjective, and you don't get consistent calls.  As everyone, not just like Mike Leach, says, they could call holding on every play.  But they don't.  So O-linemen hold as much as they can get away with.  Even ones wearing burnt orange do this.
And, really, sportsmanship--or lack thereof--has nothing to do with that.  Is an O-lineman supposed to let the defender rush past him and nail his QB in the backfield--maybe injuring him in the process--so that he can pat himself on the back for being a good sportsman?  I don't think so.

This is two games that the Horns have lost now, and after both of them, Horn posters here have managed to insinuate that the other team was cheating.
Not a good look.

LSU was cheating

OU not so much

I have no problem with a DB being very aggressive as you said its up to the refs to contain it

CW I really take issue with your slant of Horn fans 

The vast majority of dialog here has not supported your contention the we just sit around and accuse when we loose

Its perfectly legit to point out that OU's DBs got away with a little more then should have been allowed

I dont think our mind set is that we were robbed however so simmer down a little on your patronization