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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1302 on: March 18, 2022, 09:36:58 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 18, 2022, 05:43:55 PM


We are not the worlds police. 
This is the least correct sentence ever typed on this board.
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« Reply #1303 on: March 18, 2022, 09:58:25 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2022, 09:36:58 PM
This is the least correct sentence ever typed on this board.

Not to speak on his behalf, but based on his history of posting, I think he means, we should not be the world's police.  

And in that respect, I feel like his views probably align with your own.

Mine too, for that matter.
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« Reply #1304 on: March 18, 2022, 11:40:08 PM »
Well he stated it as fact.

And Russia isn't at war with Ukraine, they invaded a foreign country, unprovoked.

Ukraine's only sin was not having enough oil for us to give a shit.
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« Reply #1305 on: March 18, 2022, 11:43:27 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2022, 11:40:08 PM
Well he stated it as fact.

And Russia isn't at war with Ukraine, they invaded a foreign country, unprovoked.

Ukraine's only sin was not having enough oil for us to give a shit.
what would you call it?
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« Reply #1306 on: March 19, 2022, 12:00:08 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2022, 11:40:08 PM
Well he stated it as fact.

And Russia isn't at war with Ukraine, they invaded a foreign country, unprovoked.

Ukraine's only sin was not having enough oil for us to give a shit.
Tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine says you're wrong about that.

The sole thing stopping us from erasing Russia from the the face of the earth, right now, today-- is dickface putin's finger on the button.  The USA simply cannot be involved in a direct shooting war with Russia.  It can't happen.

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« Reply #1307 on: March 19, 2022, 12:11:32 AM »
Then my initial statement was correct:  he can do whatever he wants.
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« Reply #1308 on: March 19, 2022, 12:12:12 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 19, 2022, 12:00:08 AM
Tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine says you're wrong about that.
Money.....talk......nothing
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« Reply #1309 on: March 19, 2022, 12:53:24 AM »
As long as it does not get personal, I enjoy the back and forth here. 
We went into Kuwait in, I forget, 1990 or 91, because Kuwait's sovereignty was breached. Ukraine's sovereignty was breached and we only provide weapons, and do not directly intervene.
We are the world's police. But you have to have oil. 
Maybe in 50-years if you are invaded, we will be your police if you have solar and wind power, but for now, you have to have oil.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1310 on: March 19, 2022, 07:28:43 AM »
We often try to be the world's police, it often ends poorly.

I believe Ukraine had a UN vote back in the USSR days.
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« Reply #1311 on: March 19, 2022, 09:51:20 AM »
if the Russian army had been in Kuwait in 91, chances are they would not have had enough oil for the US to send in troops
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« Reply #1312 on: March 19, 2022, 09:55:16 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on March 19, 2022, 12:53:24 AM
As long as it does not get personal, I enjoy the back and forth here.
We went into Kuwait in, I forget, 1990 or 91, because Kuwait's sovereignty was breached. Ukraine's sovereignty was breached and we only provide weapons, and do not directly intervene.
We are the world's police. But you have to have oil.
Maybe in 50-years if you are invaded, we will be your police if you have solar and wind power, but for now, you have to have oil.
Not sure what oil has to do with it

I dont think the US got a drop of oil from the Iraq wars

nor was it the reason we went in
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« Reply #1313 on: March 19, 2022, 10:17:23 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on March 19, 2022, 12:53:24 AM
As long as it does not get personal, I enjoy the back and forth here.
We went into Kuwait in, I forget, 1990 or 91, because Kuwait's sovereignty was breached. Ukraine's sovereignty was breached and we only provide weapons, and do not directly intervene.
We are the world's police. But you have to have oil.
Maybe in 50-years if you are invaded, we will be your police if you have solar and wind power, but for now, you have to have oil.
A lot has changed in 30 years, for sure. They should have marched to Baghdad like Stormin' Norman wanted to at that time, instead of waiting for the WMD crap.
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« Reply #1314 on: March 19, 2022, 10:37:41 AM »
should have marched to Moscow like Patton wanted to do
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1315 on: March 19, 2022, 10:45:42 AM »
It's interesting to look at the size of the Allies versus the Russian army in 1945.  It's not close.  Most of the German forces were fighting in the East from 1941 with brief exceptions.  The Russians rolled them back.  They had good fighter AC, comparable to ours, excellent tanks, better and more numerous than ours, massive artillery, and the people in the West had no stomach for another war.

Patton's notions were absurd in my view.

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