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MaximumSam

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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2021, 10:08:17 AM »
Is Oprah still a show?

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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2021, 10:12:56 AM »
Pretty sure she has her own network at this point. 

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« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2021, 10:54:41 AM »
Roku added what seems like a thousand channels you can watch for free. I ran across some sort of digital football simulation where you could watch sort of Madden football game, but with no one actually playing. They had their own announcers and everything. That was some bad television.

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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2021, 11:29:15 AM »
Sounds like some of that old public access stuff. 


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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2021, 11:57:21 AM »
Dancing with the stars, American Idol, the Kardashians, Biggest Loser, Oprah, whatever that political daytime show with Whoopi Goldberg is called, Survivor and the Bachelorette.

Worst ones I could think of off the top of my head.
Guess I'll take your word for it save Oprah I've never seen any of them
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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #75 on: March 07, 2021, 02:31:12 PM »

FAMILY GUY

I was exposed to Family Guy during its Adult Swim revival on Cartoon Network while I was staying up too late in high school. I stuck with it until giving up around Season 5 or 6 (2006/7?). Too vulgar for kids yet too much of an insult for an adult audience, who was Family Guy’s intended audience? Man-children, I concluded, before steering my younger siblings to better, more age-appropriate animations like Kim Possible and Clone Wars.

Since then Family Guy is one of those shows that’s always on TV, amassing a staying power by virtue of its sheer volume of syndication across Cable, similar to that of The Simpsons and South Park (who despite their equivalent vulgarity are adept social satirists, unlike FG). Going into Season 18 or 19, Family Guy makes such a too-easy target for Cancel Culture that I half-wonder if that’s the reason why Cancel Culture hasn’t bothered to challenge FG. Characters wear “black face,” continually mock numerous disabilities, and maybe most unwatchable of all, its depictions of Asians are so demeaning I’m surprised they’re allowed to air. None of it is funny; the animation sucks anyway.


It's funny, I've got a few years on you, and I have such a different memory of that show (to be clear, still schlock).

In the early 2000s, Family Guy was this kind of white whale. It had been canceled after 2-3 seasons. It was a thing you had to find on DVD or pirate. The audience was dipshit teenage boys who liked something transgressive without thinking much beyond that. There are a lot of those, and adults who act like those.

It was simpsons-ish, but more dark and crass, back when TV was a much smaller world. The revival in 2005 was a big thing. We only had so much TV. I think I binged Scrubs in HS. 

It wasn't good, just crass and rude and often funny in crass and rude ways. It was different, and I use the word transgressive again. Perhaps if it had just stayed a cult thing, we'd see it differently. 

But it turned out to be a money machine. Looking around our culture, a LOT of folks like crass and transgressive for the sake of crass and transgressive. And it's super easy to make, actor never age out. 

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« Reply #76 on: March 07, 2021, 04:18:13 PM »
Basically, what I'm reading here, is that having actors matters and maybe networks should pay for shows with actual actors in them.  All of these competitions and reality TV is crap.

Except for one thing:  like McDonalds, the crap is the most widely-consumed product.  And like McDonalds, it's cheap to create.  And that combination of widely consumed and cheap to create means it ain't broke, so it won't be fixed.
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« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2021, 04:35:20 PM »
Basically, what I'm reading here, is that having actors matters and maybe networks should pay for shows with actual actors in them.  All of these competitions and reality TV is crap.

Except for one thing:  like McDonalds, the crap is the most widely-consumed product.  And like McDonalds, it's cheap to create.  And that combination of widely consumed and cheap to create means it ain't broke, so it won't be fixed.
TV is for the most part, a business. Right now, it's a hyper competitive business, with some super weird models. They'll make what people watch, and lots and lots of people watch competitions, reality TV and middling Chuck Lorre shows. 

It won't be fixed because they're making what's working. They're also making tons and tons of pretty good stuff, even some great stuff. The thing is, you can only watch so much. And we're fortunate, the internet has many people who can direct you to good stuff. So if you don't like the stuff, you never have to watch.

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« Reply #78 on: March 07, 2021, 05:05:04 PM »
One person I'd pinpoint as contributing a lot to bad TV is Mary Ellis-Bunim.  I believe she's the person behind the Real World from MTV back in the day.  In particular, her style that has spread to many of the crap shows on TV now is the splicing stock footage between segments or scenes.  It's literally just garbage filler that adds up to minutes of a show, seconds at a time.  
I hate when bad ideas spread like wildfire.
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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2021, 10:48:35 AM »
I think there are some really good shows on TV, just mostly not on broadcast networks.  There are some excellent Netflix, Amazon, and Disney+ originals.  Mandalorian and WandaVision have been fantastic, for those that like the Star Wars and Disney MCU.


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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2021, 12:35:26 PM »
I think there are some really good shows on TV, just mostly not on broadcast networks.  There are some excellent Netflix, Amazon, and Disney+ originals.  Mandalorian and WandaVision have been fantastic, for those that like the Star Wars and Disney MCU.


I really liked Mandalorian but Wanda Vision is just too far out there for my little brain to understand
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Re: Worst Shows on TV
« Reply #81 on: March 08, 2021, 12:36:53 PM »
Tried to watch the redo of Walker but its just not like the original at all and so far not to my liking
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« Reply #82 on: March 08, 2021, 02:29:17 PM »
I really liked Mandalorian but Wanda Vision is just too far out there for my little brain to understand
If  you watch all 9 episodes, it makes sense.  It's a direct lead-in to upcoming movies Doctor Strange 2, and Captain Marvel 2, and it also leans pretty heavily on the comic book canon, so if you're  not familiar with that, then it's also more difficult to follow.  

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« Reply #83 on: March 08, 2021, 02:36:51 PM »
If  you watch all 9 episodes, it makes sense.  It's a direct lead-in to upcoming movies Doctor Strange 2, and Captain Marvel 2, and it also leans pretty heavily on the comic book canon, so if you're  not familiar with that, then it's also more difficult to follow. 

nope I gave up comic books sometime in the 4th grade so I guess Im screwed
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