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utee94

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10654 on: September 07, 2024, 07:46:57 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on September 07, 2024, 12:42:39 PM
Saw this and it's similar to what I discussed a few days ago about the data center industry...

https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/06/datacenters_set_to_emit_3x/
Another major issue with power drain is all the crypto miners.  They gravitate to places with cheap power, then consume all that power.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10655 on: September 07, 2024, 09:31:32 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 07, 2024, 07:46:57 PM
Another major issue with power drain is all the crypto miners.  They gravitate to places with cheap power, then consume all that power.
Yeah. And I've still not found an argument that crypto is anything but stupid. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10656 on: September 08, 2024, 11:17:29 AM »
Starting to heat up a little. 90%, 60% and 50%, from L-R.

Texas looks to in for a lot of rain.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10657 on: September 08, 2024, 11:26:41 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 08, 2024, 11:17:29 AM
Starting to heat up a little. 90%, 60% and 50%, from L-R.

Texas looks to in for a lot of rain.



I'm sure poor Gigem and lh320 will get too much in the Houston area while we get nothing.  Weather sux.
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« Reply #10658 on: September 08, 2024, 11:35:06 AM »
Humans chose where to set up camp.  And we choose to remain.  We rebuilt New Orleans below sea level on a major river and near the coast.
We stack ourselves along the coasts because it's pretty.  And bitch about the inevitable storms that happen.  Live along rivers' flood plains and call it tragedy when it floods there.

We build multi-million person cities in the middle of the desert, then bitch about water usage.  Chop down forests in order to plant a crop to feed an animal we deem tasty.  And we chop down another forest to give them space to frolick before we eat them.

But yeah.  Let's yell at the sky.
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« Reply #10659 on: September 08, 2024, 11:35:43 AM »
That being said, 100+ days of 100+ degrees here in Phoenix!  New record.  Just call it a new annual record. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10660 on: September 08, 2024, 11:37:27 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2024, 11:35:06 AM
But yeah.  Let's yell at the sky.
Do you have some practicable solution to this?

Humans built settlements "back in the day" along water because of the ease of trade.  Nearly every large city is on a navigable waterway.  The few exceptions are cities built much more recently (in the age of rail).  
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« Reply #10661 on: September 08, 2024, 11:52:25 AM »
Don't yell at the sky?
Don't label the inevitable as being tragic?
Gradually build in higher, safer places?  
Have a deliberate, prudent, well-thought-out society?

Crazy talk.  I know.
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« Reply #10662 on: September 08, 2024, 11:57:58 AM »
There are risks to living just about anywhere in the world.

We make our choices, and we live with those choices.

We knew the risk in moving here. We just hope for the best.
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« Reply #10663 on: September 08, 2024, 12:37:50 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 08, 2024, 11:57:58 AM
There are risks to living just about anywhere in the world.

We make our choices, and we live with those choices.

We knew the risk in moving here. We just hope for the best.
But then they want all the rest of us to pay to fix it up when the inevitable happens. That is not living with the choices.
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« Reply #10664 on: September 08, 2024, 12:50:00 PM »
You live in a desert... Some would say that is not a good choice.

People in California, Oregon and Washington are just biding their time until they fall into the Pacific or get burned by a fire. People in Iowa, etc. are just waiting for that next tornado.

Examples abound.
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« Reply #10665 on: September 08, 2024, 12:56:18 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 08, 2024, 12:50:00 PM
You live in a desert... Some would say that is not a good choice.

People in California, Oregon and Washington are just biding their time until they fall into the Pacific or get burned by a fire. People in Iowa, etc. are just waiting for that next tornado.

Examples abound.
My issue is not with where anyone lives, my issue is asking others to pay for their choices on where to live.  
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« Reply #10666 on: September 08, 2024, 01:06:43 PM »
Do you mean from an infrastructure standpoint? That is definitely a governmental responsibility. The State of Florida generally takes care of itself, with some Federal assistance.

We took $125K in damages from Ian and only recovered $80K from our private insurance. We funded the rest.

Rebuilding anything in New Orleans below sea level was stupid. That was all Federal money, wasted by the W administration.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10667 on: September 08, 2024, 01:38:40 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 08, 2024, 11:52:25 AM
Don't yell at the sky?
Don't label the inevitable as being tragic?
Gradually build in higher, safer places? 
Have a deliberate, prudent, well-thought-out society?

Crazy talk.  I know.
Do you view this as realistic and practicable?
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