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Topic: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1414 on: July 08, 2024, 11:06:21 AM »
That's a great book. I want to make the pepperoni xo sauce recipe at some point
Just looked that up... That looks delicious. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1415 on: July 08, 2024, 11:09:35 AM »
Bastage!!! I'm slobbering like a St Bernard,well don't stop there keep rubbing it in. What suds did you pair it with? And i don't want to hear about any Napa Valley or Sonoma grape squeezings
I think I was drinking some Left Coast Brewing Company Trestles IPA with it. 

Left Coast brewing is local here, down in San Clemente CA. They're also the brewery behind a pizza joint / brewpub chain called Oggi's. Trestles is the name of a popular surfing beach just south of San Clemente. 

IPA definitely was good in that it stands up to the big flavors in the dish and actually has the bitterness and acidity to cut through it as well. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1416 on: July 08, 2024, 11:26:55 AM »
blech

I was with you on the dish, until you mentioned the IPA...

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1417 on: July 08, 2024, 11:31:08 AM »
Just looked that up... That looks delicious.
Can you post the recipe you made with the belly @betarhoalphadelta please?

I want to get a feel for the book before I buy it.
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« Reply #1418 on: July 08, 2024, 11:53:47 AM »
Can you post the recipe you made with the belly @betarhoalphadelta please?

I want to get a feel for the book before I buy it.
Hopefully this attachment will come through and be something you can download and zoom into. 

The recipe is like a lot of stir fries... A lot of prep before you start, and then everything happens quickly. The mise en place is important.

The recipe is simple, but the ingredients may be hard to find. Depending what's near you, possibly might need to order online for the tianmianjiang, douchi, and doubanjiang. Shouxing wine should be easier to find, but again I'm not sure what you have available. Everything else should be readily available. 

When I said it was an "adventure" at the Asian market, it was... I had stupidly left my phone on the end table next to the couch, so I had a list of those ingredients above that I needed. Problem was that nothing at the market was labeled tianmianjiang, douchi, or doubanjiang. I asked for help, but didn't quite get much. The lady was able to successfully give me a jar of tianmianjiang, but gave me something for doubanjiang that didn't quite look right so I got something else. And no luck with the douchi so I bought some black bean w/ garlic sauce. (Shouxing wine is easy as mentioned--no trouble finding that.)

When I got home, I compared the Chinese characters on the jars to the online images for tianmianjiang and doubanjiang, and found that I at least had the right stuff on those two. The black bean sauce was absolutely NOT douchi, which upon googling I realized is a Chinese version of miso (so I was in the wrong area of the store entirely), and that miso can be an acceptable substitute. We happened to already have miso in the fridge, so I used that. I also used regular soy sauce instead of dark soy sauce. Other than those subs, everything was as the recipe calls for. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1419 on: July 08, 2024, 11:54:36 AM »
blech

I was with you on the dish, until you mentioned the IPA...

It would pair nicely with a Live Oak pilsner too, I'm sure. 

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« Reply #1420 on: July 08, 2024, 12:00:40 PM »
Thank you.
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« Reply #1421 on: July 08, 2024, 12:09:43 PM »
It would pair nicely with a Live Oak pilsner too, I'm sure.
Doesn't everything? ;)


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« Reply #1422 on: July 08, 2024, 01:00:58 PM »
I think he says somewhere in the back which dishes pair best with Busch Light

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« Reply #1423 on: July 08, 2024, 01:04:15 PM »
Can you post the recipe you made with the belly @betarhoalphadelta please?

I want to get a feel for the book before I buy it.
Kenji Lopez-Alt is the author. He used to work for Cooks Illustrated and then for Serious Eats. If you like that style - basically lots of attention to the science and technique and the why of a recipe, it's an easy recommendation. Very accessible in understanding the recipes, even if finding the ingredients can be a challenge.

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1424 on: July 08, 2024, 01:27:19 PM »
Ingredients would be a challenge for me here, as noted before. We just do not have much of an Asian population. It seems like the only ones who are here own restaurants.

My other challenge would be a Wok. We do not have a gas stove. I'd have to use the side burner or my portable infrared butane burner. Nothing inside.

You have to get the Wok hot before starting anything. Induction does not allow for that to happen. With nothing in a pan or pot, it could fuse to the burner. That's not good.
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« Reply #1425 on: July 08, 2024, 01:48:13 PM »
Ingredients would be a challenge for me here, as noted before. We just do not have much of an Asian population. It seems like the only ones who are here own restaurants.

My other challenge would be a Wok. We do not have a gas stove. I'd have to use the side burner or my portable infrared butane burner. Nothing inside.

You have to get the Wok hot before starting anything. Induction does not allow for that to happen. With nothing in a pan or pot, it could fuse to the burner. That's not good.
Is that a thing?? I don't have an induction cooktop. How do you heat up a pan?

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1426 on: July 08, 2024, 01:58:09 PM »
There has to be something in it, so oil or water.
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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #1427 on: July 08, 2024, 02:12:50 PM »
Kenji Lopez-Alt is the author. He used to work for Cooks Illustrated and then for Serious Eats. If you like that style - basically lots of attention to the science and technique and the why of a recipe, it's an easy recommendation. Very accessible in understanding the recipes, even if finding the ingredients can be a challenge.
Agreed. When I wanted to make something new my wife would often ask "do you know how to make that?", and I'd say "no, but Serious Eats does." And that was good enough most of the time :72:

Ingredients would be a challenge for me here, as noted before. We just do not have much of an Asian population. It seems like the only ones who are here own restaurants.

My other challenge would be a Wok. We do not have a gas stove. I'd have to use the side burner or my portable infrared butane burner. Nothing inside.

You have to get the Wok hot before starting anything. Induction does not allow for that to happen. With nothing in a pan or pot, it could fuse to the burner. That's not good.
You don't need a gas stove. Even Serious Eats recommends woks on their "induction cookware" page: https://www.seriouseats.com/best-induction-cookware-5216877

And in Kenji's book he has a little blurb on a page for electric or induction burners and says it's just fine, although you may want to cook in smaller batches. And you'll need a flat-bottomed wok rather than round. 

That said, you don't NEED a wok to stir fry. You can use a normal pan without a problem. Kenji has a FAQ in the "buying a wok" section that says basically all of these recipes can work in standard pan, for which he recommends a saucier because of the round sloped sides. 

I don't know about fusing to the cooktop. How hot would cookware have to get it to fuse? I'm guessing that's WAY hotter than you need to get it to be ready to start cooking. For this recipe I got it up to the point where the residual oil seasoning on the pan started smoking and then threw in the cooking oil and went to it. Everything I put in sizzled nicely at those temps. 

There has to be something in it, so oil or water.
You could start heating it with the oil already inside. The recipe says heat it first, but I don't think that's necessary in any way. 

 

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