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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2310 on: July 17, 2024, 09:19:35 AM »
Hyundai makes its namesake, Kia and Genesis.

I know Genesis is the top end. Which is the bottom?
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2311 on: July 17, 2024, 09:25:01 AM »
Kia and Hyundai are at the same price, basically.  They are the same vehicles with trim differences, same engines, transmissions, suspension tuning might be slightly different.  Maybe there is an exception somewhere.

2023 Kia Sportage vs. Hyundai Tucson Small SUV Showdown: Spoiled for Choice (motortrend.com)

Both the Hyundai and Kia share a platform, power, drivetrains, and even the same basic dimensions. Both sport Hyundai/Kia's standard 2.5-liter I-4 engine, producing a whelming 187 hp and 178 lb-ft of torque. That power is routed through identical eight-speed automatic transmissions, then to optional all-wheel-drive systems. It's worth noting all-wheel drive is required for the Sportage X-Pro, but the system is functionally identical to the one in other Sportage models and the Tucson.

The biggest mechanical difference between the two SUVs is the Kia Sportage X-Pro's 17-inch wheels and all-terrain tires. Those tires will likely improve ride comfort on the road, perhaps at some expense braking distance, handling, and noise. If you're trying to decide between these two SUVs and you prioritize off-road performance, look elsewhere
 look elsewhere; the Tucson's 19.6-/19.5-/26.7-degree approach/breakover/departure angles best the Sportage X-Pro's 18.9-/19.0-/26.6-degree ratings, but both are "car-like." Again, unless you're a glutton for punishment
 unless you're a glutton for punishment, neither vehicle is capable of much more than your average National Park dirt trail.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2312 on: July 17, 2024, 09:49:15 AM »
There were some model years of the Kia Optima that I thought looked really sporty.  We were actually considering getting one when it was time to move on from the Toyota convertible, but then my i s C & a aggie wife decided what she really needed was a Jeep, so there you have it.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2313 on: July 17, 2024, 10:13:42 AM »
I see quite a few Palisades and Tellurides around here.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2314 on: July 17, 2024, 10:15:26 AM »
I see quite a few Palisades and Tellurides around here.
Yup, they review well.  I looked at one in the showroom, it was larger than we wanted, but very nice inside.  They don't cost all that much, look pretty good, are very spacious, etc.  I'm probably overly consumed with gas mileage at times, but I don't want a vehicle that large for us.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2315 on: July 17, 2024, 10:30:25 AM »
Not many around here, too small for truck-loving Texans.

SUVs are mainly Suburbans, Tahoes, Yukons, Expeditions, Explorers, etc.  The Jeep Grand Wagoneer seems to be gaining in popularity, I see more of them on the roads each passing day.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2316 on: July 17, 2024, 10:34:39 AM »
The Telluride is the close to almost same size as a Yukon.  Both are 3 row SUV types.  The Yukon is larger on specs.








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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2317 on: July 17, 2024, 10:41:44 AM »
Yeah, the Palisade and Telluride are both pretty damn big. Definitely a "full size" SUV. 

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« Reply #2318 on: July 17, 2024, 10:42:28 AM »
Telluride definitely does not appear to be the same size as Tahoe/Yukon.  There's 3rd row seats and then there's 3rd row seats.

But of course, there's also a fairly strong pro-American car company sentiment in Texas, which is part of the buying mentality as well.

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« Reply #2319 on: July 17, 2024, 10:44:37 AM »
Yeah, the Palisade and Telluride are both pretty damn big. Definitely a "full size" SUV.
Matter of perspective. I consider a Suburban to be "pretty damn big" and a Tahoe to be merely a "full size SUV."

I'd currently be driving a Suburban or Yukon XL if they still offered a 3/4 ton version.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2320 on: July 17, 2024, 10:49:02 AM »
The Telluride is probably more like a Buick Arcadia.  The Tahoe is a size up from them.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2321 on: July 17, 2024, 10:52:17 AM »
The Telluride is probably more like a Buick Arcadia.  The Tahoe is a size up from them.
Yeah that sounds about right, just from looking at them.  I've never been in one and I'm sure it has its appropriate target use cases.

I'll freely admit that my own vehicle requirements are not representative of average folks, most people aren't towing 6,000 lbs of boat or 8,000 lbs of RV while hauling around a family of 4 plus a large dog.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2322 on: July 17, 2024, 10:54:59 AM »
There's 3rd row seats and then there's 3rd row seats.
That's true. One of the things I like about the Flex is that the 2nd-row seats are as roomy as most car's front seats, and the 3rd row is of a size that an adult can fit back there comfortably (not me of course... a normal-sized adult). 

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2323 on: July 17, 2024, 10:59:34 AM »
That's true. One of the things I like about the Flex is that the 2nd-row seats are as roomy as most car's front seats, and the 3rd row is of a size that an adult can fit back there comfortably (not me of course... a normal-sized adult).
Yeah the Flex is definitely a people-mover.  We rented one in Santa Fe a few years back, so we could get the whole clan up and down the ski mountain without having to take 2 cars.  Worked out really well.

 

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