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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15064 on: August 20, 2021, 08:28:37 AM »
No new trends worldwide, UK MAY be on an upswing, oddly, while Spain is clearly dropping.  More data I don't understand.

With any luck Florida has peaked.  Hospitals around here are in OK shape.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15065 on: August 20, 2021, 09:18:27 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on August 19, 2021, 05:40:47 PM
That's what worries me too. By and large, school districts go back in MN the day after Labor Day.

However, we'll learn more about the State Fair's role with Delta before LDW. It opens next Thursday. Despite what the GM said to MPR yesterday, I think the crowds will be back with a vengeance. Any big transmission there will show up in the ~September 1-2-3 data.

And it's excellent that vaccination is picking up, especially in hard-hit areas.
Iowa state fair is over - attendance at 680,000 for 7 days

Garth Brooks concert in the stadium in Lincoln 90,000 shoulder to shoulder, no masks

if those aren't super spreaders we will be OK
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15066 on: August 20, 2021, 09:23:38 AM »
Texas State Fair runs late Sept. to mid Oct.  I'll be there, this year. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15067 on: August 20, 2021, 09:24:59 AM »
wear your mask!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15068 on: August 20, 2021, 09:27:12 AM »
No thanks I'm vaccinated and besides it's almost entirely outdoors.

Any place that requires a mask, of course, I will comply.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15069 on: August 20, 2021, 10:48:12 AM »
https://apple.news/AfnM-joikS4GPKr72UQLK8A

Nothing conclusive, and still small statistical percentages, but for those who argue that nothing can ever go wrong with vaccines, I think this shows that that’s just too much of a generalization to be considered factual.  

And you can’t criticize the source.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15070 on: August 20, 2021, 11:18:49 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 20, 2021, 10:48:12 AM
https://apple.news/AfnM-joikS4GPKr72UQLK8A

Nothing conclusive, and still small statistical percentages, but for those who argue that nothing can ever go wrong with vaccines, I think this shows that that’s just too much of a generalization to be considered factual. 

And you can’t criticize the source.
Interesting

no real data or medical study to support this so wake me when that happens
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15071 on: August 20, 2021, 11:23:33 AM »
But the CDC’s vaccine advisers, at a June 24 meeting, said that getting covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, puts someone at far greater risk of heart inflammation and other serious medical problems than the risk of developing myocarditis from vaccination.

The CDC and the Department of Health and Human Services, together with 15 of the country’s leading medical and public health organizations — including the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the American Medical Association and the American Nurses Association — issued a joint statement after the June meeting saying that they “strongly encourage everyone 12 and older” to get the shots because the benefits far outweigh potential harms.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15072 on: August 20, 2021, 11:28:22 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 20, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
Interesting

no real data or medical study to support this so wake me when that happens
Oh- I dont disagree.  At all. 

But I have read several comments here that INSIST that nothing could ever go wrong with the vaccines for anyone ever, from now to eternity and beyond.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15073 on: August 20, 2021, 12:00:15 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 20, 2021, 08:28:37 AM
No new trends worldwide, UK MAY be on an upswing, oddly, while Spain is clearly dropping.  More data I don't understand.

With any luck Florida has peaked.  Hospitals around here are in OK shape.
Vax's have really ramped up here in the past month.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15074 on: August 20, 2021, 01:03:05 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 20, 2021, 11:28:22 AM
Oh- I dont disagree.  At all.

But I have read several comments here that INSIST that nothing could ever go wrong with the vaccines for anyone ever, from now to eternity and beyond.


haven't heard that from me

I have said that the risks for the vaccine are much less than the risks of the virus itself
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15075 on: August 20, 2021, 01:05:08 PM »
Hyperbole, nobody among any authority ever asserted there was zero risk with any vaccine.  

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« Reply #15076 on: August 20, 2021, 01:44:12 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 20, 2021, 11:28:22 AM
Oh- I dont disagree.  At all.

But I have read several comments here that INSIST that nothing could ever go wrong with the vaccines for anyone ever, from now to eternity and beyond.


I monitor this thread pretty closely and I don't recall anything like that. 

I have seen several people suggest that the likelihood of experiencing longterm effects from actually getting COVID are greater than than the longterm effects of the vaccine.  And that the risks associated with the vaccine are statistically insignificant compared to the risks of actually getting COVID.

It's possible, of course, that I missed some commentary somewhere.  I don't read every post on this thread, although I try to do my best.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15077 on: August 20, 2021, 02:09:35 PM »
Nobody HERE has insisted there is no chance of some side effect for the vaccine, not a soul, to do so would be ridiculous.  Nobody in any position of authority has made such a claim either that I heard.
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