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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5754 on: June 23, 2020, 06:07:59 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 23, 2020, 05:35:06 PM
I think folks are not being safe enough in general.

Everyone is all excited that things are re-opening, and want to forget that "opening" doesn't mean "normal."

We can't stay closed forever, but as I am trying to point out, there are tens of millions of seniors, and hundreds of millions of Americans, who haven't been infected with this virus and if we're not careful, hundreds of thousands more will die. That's not meant to be hyperbole.

We're at most 5-7% infection rates in this country, assuming high numbers of asymptomatic folks. We need to get to ~70% or more for herd immunity. That's a lot of people.

But people are behaving as if this thing has gone away.
You keep echoing me. I'm getting nervous.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5755 on: June 23, 2020, 10:01:25 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 22, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
A Convention of the States could easily turn into something rather scary.  The limits and procedures on such a thing are left very very vague in the Constitution.
Whatever a Convention of the States did, it would still require ratification of 3/4 of the states.  It's hard to amend the Constitution, by design.
Which is why activists look for extra-Constitutional ways to change it, whether by legislation or court rulings.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5756 on: June 23, 2020, 10:06:14 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on June 23, 2020, 09:17:35 AM
Trump?Or his way of thinking? 😎
His way of what???
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5757 on: June 24, 2020, 06:53:30 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 23, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
Whatever a Convention of the States did, it would still require ratification of 3/4 of the states.  It's hard to amend the Constitution, by design.
Which is why activists look for extra-Constitutional ways to change it, whether by legislation or court rulings.
Yes, that is the sole safe guard from something radical, but it could result in unintended consequences.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5758 on: June 24, 2020, 08:28:38 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2020, 04:30:32 PM
I'm the only one to bring it up. Nobody else here did, which is something they have in common with his assclown brother.
I’ve brought it up more than a couple times as well. 

Not only did that assclown Cuomo push an order requiring nursing homes to take people with COVID back, he then gave nursing homes immunity in the courts from any liability related to COVID. 

Why did he do this? Campaign donations. He’s a giant piece of shit, as is his doofus brother and CNN is a complete JOKE for letting Fredo have jokey laughing “interviews” with his older brother. Absolute clown show. Journalistic integrity much? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5759 on: June 24, 2020, 08:31:19 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 24, 2020, 08:28:38 AM
Not only did that assclown Cuomo push an order requiring nursing homes to take people with COVID back, he then gave nursing homes immunity in the courts from any liability related to COVID.
If this is all accurate they both should be caned then canned
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5760 on: June 24, 2020, 08:47:19 AM »
I think the notion was that hospitals would be overrun, so take patients who are recovering and put them in nursing homes.  Bad idea.

Here they put 200 beds in the convention center, they were barely used, it that.  They did this in a lot of places and found they didn't need them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5761 on: June 24, 2020, 09:47:07 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 24, 2020, 08:47:19 AM
I think the notion was that hospitals would be overrun, so take patients who are recovering and put them in nursing homes.  Bad idea.

Here they put 200 beds in the convention center, they were barely used, it that.  They did this in a lot of places and found they didn't need them.
It was more than 200 beds. They also got a ship and 4,000,000 VENTILATORS VENTILATORS VENTILATORS VENTILATORS VENTILATORS VENTILATORS VENTILATORS!!!


Chicago got 1000 (originally wanted 3000) and Chicago has twice the number of hospital beds than NYC to start with (which is another story - why so few beds in NYC??).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5762 on: June 24, 2020, 11:31:57 AM »
think he may have been referring to Atlanta convention center
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5763 on: June 24, 2020, 11:43:58 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 24, 2020, 11:31:57 AM
think he may have been referring to Atlanta convention center
Yeah, he changed subjects mid-post, which got me. Pain meds suck sometimes.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5764 on: June 24, 2020, 11:44:16 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 24, 2020, 11:31:57 AM
think he may have been referring to Atlanta convention center
Yes, as in "here", meaning in Atlanta.  I could have been more clear.  I don't think the beds were used at all.  It dropped out of the news cycle.

It makes sense that recovering patients out of danger and needing only bed rest could be housed in such a facility and be checked on occasion at less cost than in a hospital.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5765 on: June 24, 2020, 11:45:01 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 24, 2020, 11:43:58 AM
Yeah, he changed subjects mid-post, which got me. Pain meds suck sometimes.
I did not change subjects, I was talking about fishing and how many knots there are with boating and how baseball is starting up without knots but some crazy rules and so forth.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5766 on: June 24, 2020, 11:49:51 AM »
Florida looks to be out of control right now. People there really need to take this thing more serious, and be more careful.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5767 on: June 24, 2020, 11:54:24 AM »
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