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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3164 on: April 29, 2020, 04:45:33 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Free to view, I thought it interesting, in case you ever get "simulitis".
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3165 on: April 29, 2020, 04:48:23 PM »
I didn't get any of that stimulus. 
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 29, 2020, 04:45:33 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Free to view, I thought it interesting, in case you ever get "simulitis".

Yeah, I didn't get any of that gubment stimulus. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3166 on: April 29, 2020, 04:53:46 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 29, 2020, 04:48:23 PM
I didn't get any of that stimulus.
Yeah, I didn't get any of that gubment stimulus.
You did in reverse then.  This was a wealth transfer from Fairy Land to those who qualified, and folks who don't get it in effect got negative wealth transfer.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3167 on: April 29, 2020, 05:13:49 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 29, 2020, 04:25:59 PM
I'm not saying you're a bad communicator... But you've come off VERY aggressive in this thread. I will tell you honestly that I didn't get the sense that you were talking about carefully opening the country back up as much as it seemed like you thought we needed to end this lockdown NOW. Maybe I read into it though...

Yes, it was to flatten the curve. And the administration released their guidelines for opening up parts of the country, in phases, based upon meeting certain conditions regarding the actual case rates (showing declining trend over a 14-day period). To my knowledge, those conditions haven't yet been met.

Note: I heard absolutely zero pushback when the administration released their guidelines for reopening. I heard absolutely zero pushback when my governor (Newsom) held a press conference announcing his framework towards reopening. The media wants to reopen the economy carefully too... Everyone's waiting for good news here!

There was a lot of negative pushback when the very day after his administration released quite reasonable guidelines for reopening the country, POTUS was tweeting "LIBERATE" to various states to embolden the protestors in states which absolutely had NOT met the conditions his own administration was suggesting were necessary to start reopening. There was a lot of negative pushback when he suggested doctors "look into" injection of disinfectant as a way to treat COVID.

Trust me, the media doesn't have to make him look bad; he's doing that well enough without their help.



I don't really watch any media. So I don't really see and hear much of what they have to say. Most of it is worthless.

We are close to the same page. 
I am listening to Governor DeSantis right now and he is very impressive.  He is talking about facts versus fear.  And his plan makes sense.  I will assure you- he will be unfairly criticized.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3168 on: April 29, 2020, 05:19:15 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 29, 2020, 04:48:23 PM
I didn't get any of that stimulus.
Yeah, I didn't get any of that gubment stimulus.
Nor did I, although I was able to get the SBA PPP approved yesterday for my company (for my employees, actually).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3169 on: April 29, 2020, 05:26:28 PM »
I haven't gotten my check because I used TurboTax last year.  And there's really no one to contact to find any info out.  The IRS site is useless.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3170 on: April 29, 2020, 05:26:43 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2020, 05:19:15 PM
Nor did I, although I was able to get the SBA PPP approved yesterday for my company (for my employees, actually).
Cool, hope you're able to stay above water through all of this.

My wife's previous employer was working on it but not sure what happened.  Suffice to say, it didn't come quick enough to prevent them from laying off.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3171 on: April 29, 2020, 05:32:34 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2020, 05:19:15 PM
Nor did I, although I was able to get the SBA PPP approved yesterday for my company (for my employees, actually).
Good!  The system for these loans has been overwhelmed for us in banking.  We literally have people working through the night. 

sadly, many small businesses that need this to survive- but the money will run out again. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3172 on: April 29, 2020, 05:45:33 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 29, 2020, 04:53:46 PM
You did in reverse then.  This was a wealth transfer from Fairy Land to those who qualified, and folks who don't get it in effect got negative wealth transfer.

Oh I'm aware.


The good news is that we were fortunate enough to not need it with the incomes we had previously.

The bad news is, unemployment benefits are pretty minimal compared to the lost wages and benefits from her previous job, so this year we won't be so fortunate...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3173 on: April 29, 2020, 05:48:54 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 29, 2020, 05:13:49 PM
We are close to the same page. 
I am listening to Governor DeSantis right now and he is very impressive.  He is talking about facts versus fear.  And his plan makes sense.  I will assure you- he will be unfairly criticized.
Looking at the NY Times, Florida actually appears to be on a declining 14-day trend in cases: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

That's actually the first step in the administration's plan to start reopening...

Georgia reopened despite no such trend. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3174 on: April 29, 2020, 05:51:00 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 29, 2020, 02:19:48 PM

The result is a promising early sign for the vaccine, which is also undergoing human trials. A working human version, however, remains months away even in the best-case scenario.
I don't know anything anymore BUT if that is accurate,they're not going to faff around and wait for committees and bureaucrats to OK it.If the virus is that henious physicians will demand the vaccine be made available
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3175 on: April 29, 2020, 05:55:25 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
I haven't gotten my check because I used TurboTax last year.  And there's really no one to contact to find any info out.  The IRS site is useless. 
I used TT and got the deposit made.  I don't know why using TT would alter that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3176 on: April 29, 2020, 05:56:24 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 29, 2020, 05:48:54 PM
Looking at the NY Times, Florida actually appears to be on a declining 14-day trend in cases: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

That's actually the first step in the administration's plan to start reopening...

Georgia reopened despite no such trend.

Yes, he is following the guidelines to a high degree.  He is actually being more strict on some things in phase 1, like gyms and bars. He is being less strict on elective surgeries, allowing more than just outpatient, because there is tremendous excess capacity. 

What I like the most is he shared tons of data, as well data illustrating the huge gaps between what was projected for Florida versus what has actually happened. He also is treating the 3 counties ( Dave, Broward and Palm Beach) where the numbers are highest, in consultation with Government leaders there, much more strictly.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3177 on: April 29, 2020, 05:57:06 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 29, 2020, 05:51:00 PM
I don't know anything anymore BUT if that is accurate,they're not going to faff around and wait for committees and bureaucrats to OK it.If the virus is that henious physicians will demand the vaccine be made available
And it is already being portrayed negatively by media.  
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