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Cincydawg · « **Reply #8540 on:** September 07, 2020, 06:52:45 PM »

It's a sure fire way to get someone here incensed, comically incensed.

And, in addition, it's a fascinating data point.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #8541 on:** September 07, 2020, 07:02:20 PM »

Everywhere I go the only people I see anywhere with no mask on are young people and when I say young I mean they appear to be in the 16 to 25-year-old range.

utee94 · « **Reply #8542 on:** September 07, 2020, 08:15:42 PM »

I like the Swedish Bikini Team.

CWSooner · « **Reply #8543 on:** September 07, 2020, 10:28:48 PM »

We discovered today that we've been undercounting COVID cases all along by not counting the positives from antigen tests. We got a directive from CDC to start doing it the right way.

I have been unimpressed with how our governor has handled this. He has refused to issue a statewide mandate on mask-wearing and, following his lead, the state school board declined to issue any mandates for mask-wearing in the public schools despite the strong case made by the state superintendent of schools.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8544 on:** September 08, 2020, 05:35:07 AM »

https://judithcurry.com/2020/07/27/why-herd-immunity-to-covid-19-is-reached-much-earlier-than-thought-update/

This is from a month ago. Would be great if true, but of course may not be true.

Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought – update
Posted on July 27, 2020 by niclewis | 810 Comments
By Nic Lewis
I showed in my May 10th article Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought that inhomogeneity within a population in the susceptibility and in the social-connectivity related infectivity of individuals would reduce, in my view probably very substantially, the herd immunity threshold (HIT), beyond which an epidemic goes into retreat. I opined, based on my modelling, that the HIT probably lay somewhere between 7% and 24%, and that evidence from Stockholm County suggested it was around 17% there, and had been reached. Mounting evidence supports my reasoning.^[1]

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8545 on:** September 08, 2020, 05:44:39 AM »

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200813/swedens-no-lockdown-policy-didnt-achieve-herd-immunity

Covid-19: What if 'Herd Immunity' Is Closer Than Scientists ...

Aug 17, 2020 - In what may be the world's most important math puzzle, researchers are trying to figure out how many people in a community must be immune before the ...

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2769704

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8546 on:** September 08, 2020, 05:55:37 AM »

https://reason.com/2020/09/02/is-swedens-covid-19-policy-relatively-rational-or-calamitous/

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-52757471

Coronavirus: Per capita death rate in Sweden 'very high'

New data suggests that Sweden might have one of the highest Covid-19 deaths-per-capita rate in Europe.
Tsemaye Opubor, a journalist based in Stockholm, says the number of deaths from the coronavirus are "really high" and could "perhaps be attributed to age".

I'm still amazed at the radically different points of view on this virus and its impact on different countries. The top article notes that their death rate is about that of the US and below that of several EU countries (not its neighbors), the second claims the death rate is "very high", which is true if you used Denmark as a comparator.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8547 on:** September 08, 2020, 11:25:54 AM »

https://gizmodo.com/coronavirus-antibodies-can-last-at-least-four-months-l-1844933434?utm_campaign=Gizmodo&utm_content=&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter&fbclid=IwAR3V7OeToGbXvje-o5xwatC_Yi6sfuWLZFfV3LNaiUAzgGFauNLFixPz4h0

Some possible fairly good news, relatively speaking.

“Our results indicate that antiviral antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 did not decline within 4 months after diagnosis,” the authors wrote.

FearlessF · « **Reply #8548 on:** September 08, 2020, 12:20:25 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 08, 2020, 05:35:07 AM

https://judithcurry.com/2020/07/27/why-herd-immunity-to-covid-19-is-reached-much-earlier-than-thought-update/

This is from a month ago. Would be great if true, but of course may not be true.

Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought – update
Posted on July 27, 2020 by niclewis | 810 Comments
By Nic Lewis
I showed in my May 10th article Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought that inhomogeneity within a population in the susceptibility and in the social-connectivity related infectivity of individuals would reduce, in my view probably very substantially, the herd immunity threshold (HIT), beyond which an epidemic goes into retreat. I opined, based on my modelling, that the HIT probably lay somewhere between 7% and 24%, and that evidence from Stockholm County suggested it was around 17% there, and had been reached. Mounting evidence supports my reasoning.^[1]

I assume this was from Sweden

CWSooner · « **Reply #8549 on:** September 08, 2020, 01:49:38 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 08, 2020, 05:35:07 AM

https://judithcurry.com/2020/07/27/why-herd-immunity-to-covid-19-is-reached-much-earlier-than-thought-update/

This is from a month ago. Would be great if true, but of course may not be true.

Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought – update
Posted on July 27, 2020 by niclewis | 810 Comments
By Nic Lewis
I showed in my May 10th article Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought that inhomogeneity within a population in the susceptibility and in the social-connectivity related infectivity of individuals would reduce, in my view probably very substantially, the herd immunity threshold (HIT), beyond which an epidemic goes into retreat. I opined, based on my modelling, that the HIT probably lay somewhere between 7% and 24%, and that evidence from Stockholm County suggested it was around 17% there, and had been reached. Mounting evidence supports my reasoning.^[1]

I find the first sentence in that article a bit hard to follow.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #8550 on:** September 08, 2020, 01:53:49 PM »

has anyone done a study on how the folks who got a flu shot last year fared with the corona virus

stats like % who got it compared with entire population

if they got it was it generally more or less sever then the norm

just wondered

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #8551 on:** September 08, 2020, 02:06:26 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on September 08, 2020, 01:53:49 PM

has anyone done a study on how the folks who got a flu shot last year fared with the corona virus

stats like % who got it compared with entire population

if they got it was it generally more or less sever then the norm

just wondered

I don't think it would have any effect, actually. Influenza is a completely different class of virus to the coronavirus.

I think some of the thought is that people who have had exposure to other viruses in the coronavirus family (some variants of the common cold are included) may have a better immune response to fight COVID-19.

But influenza is not related at all.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #8552 on:** September 08, 2020, 02:33:16 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on September 08, 2020, 02:06:26 PM

I don't think it would have any effect, actually. Influenza is a completely different class of virus to the coronavirus.

I think some of the thought is that people who have had exposure to other viruses in the coronavirus family (some variants of the common cold are included) may have a better immune response to fight COVID-19.

But influenza is not related at all.

while your opinion means a lot to me it would be interesting to see a study on this

What if the positive rate was half as much or twice as much

same thing about deaths

FearlessF · « **Reply #8553 on:** September 08, 2020, 02:59:29 PM »

you really want to see another study?

by who? someone leaning left or right?

how about an anonymous expert?

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