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Cincydawg

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6076 on: June 30, 2020, 09:06:07 AM »
I think Georgia's numbers are very bad.  We have changed our practices as a result.

I think this thing is "out" now and going to run its course, even shutting down bars etc. is not going to help fast enough.

We could end up in a medical crisis here.

I listened to some MD on TV yesterday who said it was doubling every 40 days and we probably have 25 million infected.  He projected half the country would have contracted it by year's end.  His math works.  It could/should start slowing down if we get anywhere near herd immunity, and as people respond individually to be more careful.

Wear a damn mask.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6077 on: June 30, 2020, 09:15:50 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6078 on: June 30, 2020, 09:17:29 AM »
Close all travel to China already. Just isolate them, in the same manner as North Korea.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6079 on: June 30, 2020, 09:28:00 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 30, 2020, 09:17:29 AM
Close all travel to China already. Just isolate them, in the same manner as North Korea.
Or just nuke China to cleanse the world.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6080 on: June 30, 2020, 09:41:21 AM »
just one warning nuke, to get their attention
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6081 on: June 30, 2020, 09:42:55 AM »
China is going to be the death of us all. There will be a superbug that comes out of there and just kills everyone.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6082 on: June 30, 2020, 10:51:19 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 30, 2020, 09:41:21 AM
just one warning nuke, to get their attention
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6083 on: June 30, 2020, 10:52:47 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 30, 2020, 05:52:38 AM
Aside from deaths or cases per capita, a significant factor to watch is TRENDLINES.  Georgia is spiking up on cases, no doubt about it.  Hospitalizations is trending up, but less dramatically (a lot less) and deaths (a laggard) is bouncing around.

I still wonder what should be shut down here to limit this.  I lean to thinking bars and indoor dining.  We don't have "bars" that I know of around here, we have restaurants that do a lot of alcohol business.
People who refuse to wear a mask?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6084 on: June 30, 2020, 10:53:41 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 30, 2020, 09:42:55 AM
China is going to be the death of us all. There will be a superbug that comes out of there and just kills everyone.
China as the real enemy won’t get the proper attention here until POTUS is gone.   

there is too much TDS ( some fair, some not) to let anything or anyone but him be the focal point of blame- for anything. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6085 on: June 30, 2020, 10:55:03 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 30, 2020, 10:52:47 AM
People who refuse to wear a mask?
That would help.  But marginally.  Lots of mask wearers around me getting positive test results.  

I can’t even fathom not wearing one though
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6086 on: June 30, 2020, 11:12:31 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 30, 2020, 07:14:19 AM
My thoughts as well. As if we all stayed at home for nothing, but to flatten the curve (kick the can). Would we have been overwhelmed in the hospitals? How many beds were built by he Army Corps, that went untouched?
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Americans DO NOT listen well to authorities. 

If in early March someone had said it was the government's sincere suggestion that we try to socially distance, that we try to avoid leaving the house if we don't have an absolute need to go somewhere, and that we try not to go party with our friends at bars and nightclubs? Oh... And wear a MASK!

What do you think Americans' response would have been?


:shut_up:


I think the practical purpose of the shutdowns was a mental reset to get people to take this thing seriously BEFORE it spiraled out of control.

Only problem is that in addition to not listening to authorities, Americans have short memories.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6087 on: June 30, 2020, 11:12:49 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on June 30, 2020, 10:55:03 AM
That would help.  But marginally.  Lots of mask wearers around me getting positive test results. 

what are these folks doing and where to get infected?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6088 on: June 30, 2020, 11:15:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 30, 2020, 08:56:34 AM
The death figure will be a trailing indicator.
I posted over the weekend, I think, about the time lag between cases and deaths, using the early spikes in Mar/Apr to gauge the time lag.

I came up with a time lag of 7-10 days between seeing a spike in cases and the according spike in deaths.

I've since thought about it more and seen some arguments suggesting that I'm incorrect. At the time, because of testing limitations we were only testing people showing significant symptoms, and so I think those people had more fully progressed into later stages of the severe disease, which would mean that the time lag would be shorter than if we'd been testing at first sign of symptoms. 

I think now more of the tests are "first sign of symptom" tests, so the lag time will be longer in the data than what we saw in Mar/Apr. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6089 on: June 30, 2020, 11:27:32 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 29, 2020, 11:28:44 PM
Your takes on this have been very weird for the past several weeks.  You are actively rooting for deaths in Texas.  You'll say you're not, you probably even believe you're not--

But you are.

I can only wonder... why?
You got me.  I actually planted the virus in Texas myself.  I am working with Bill Gates to implant Texicans with 5G chips.

In all seriousness, you offended me here.  And, if you look at my posts I have been trying very hard to stick with data, AND I've been explaining my rational.

Am I annoyed that people continue to minimize this thing, not wear masks, etc?  Yes.  Maybe that is showing through.

I truly hope you don't have to deal with we did in the Northeast.  
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