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« Reply #2576 on: July 04, 2024, 07:58:10 AM »
The obvious issue of mine with such rankings is whoever does the ranking can't possibly have dined enough in each of these cities to have a worthwhile opinion.  It's click bait, and they will often throw in a ringer to get more clicks, like Walla Walla, WA as a top BBQ city.

But it's silly to list small towns in last place without considered small towns competing with the large cities on the other side.

But "we" like rankings.
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« Reply #2577 on: July 04, 2024, 08:07:59 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 04, 2024, 07:58:10 AM
The obvious issue of mine with such rankings is whoever does the ranking can't possibly have dined enough in each of these cities to have a worthwhile opinion.  It's click bait, and they will often throw in a ringer to get more clicks, like Walla Walla, WA as a top BBQ city.

But it's silly to list small towns in last place without considered small towns competing with the large cities on the other side.

But "we" like rankings.

I think small towns fall into much the same category as big cities with respect to being called a "BBQ town."  Sure, lots of small towns have a good BBQ joint. Maybe two.  But that's not necessarily their calling card, it's just a restaurant that happens to be there.

We have no idea what metrics the "ranking" used and it's obviously click-bait.  But we can always design our own way to rate these things.

Upthread I think it was you that basically called out a city having a "concentration" of good BBQ restaurants, as being the main criterion.  Or another way to look at it, is having a high ratio of good BBQ restaurants per capita. I'd agree with that. So that excludes big cities like LA that probably have a few good ones, but spread across millions of people it doesn't amount to much.  Or tiny towns that have a good one, but such a low population that it doesn't register.

I also think there's an idea of "BBQ Culture" that goes into the mix.  LA has no BBQ culture.  Austin, Memphis, Kansas City, and the other traditional BBQ cities, obviously do.
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« Reply #2578 on: July 04, 2024, 08:08:09 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 04, 2024, 07:51:15 AM
You shouldn’t.

Obviously No. 1 is Texas. And No. 2 is people who learned in Texas and carry the style elsewhere. Obviously you get variations in level of quality, but some good stuff there.

I tend to prefer SC after that, in part because they build a better complete meal than everyone else and do pork well (also, they tend to roll out a big tent Re: sauce, and I like the choices)

I enjoy a bit of the vinegar sauce. But NC chops their pork, which is bad, and insists on a range of sides that are, pardon my language, flat bullshit.
That's my buddy Greg, who I posted about above.
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« Reply #2579 on: July 04, 2024, 08:13:44 AM »
I've remarked before that our favorite place in ATL is Fox Bros, and they hail from Texas.  This new place going to open near us might be good competition.

We've tried several other places that make the "top ten lists", have one yet to try really.  The others are "OK".
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« Reply #2580 on: July 04, 2024, 08:14:37 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 04, 2024, 07:18:28 AM
No, I was responding to this statement:

All I said is you don't have to search "hard enough" anymore. BWAR hasn't lived in Chicago for decades.

Back then, BBQ was mostly South Side, so you had to 1) look hard and 2) decide if it was safe to go.

Anyway, a buddy of mine owns this place in Palatine, where I moved here from. Good Eats. I'll be eating there next week.

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Menu looks legit, I'd eat that.  Love seeing chicken on the menu, smoked yardbird is an underrated dish.  It used to be super-common at Texas BBQ joints but for some reason seems to have somewhat fallen out of favor.  Smoked turkey is another delicious one that is less common on restaurant menus.
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« Reply #2581 on: July 04, 2024, 08:16:06 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 04, 2024, 08:13:44 AM
I've remarked before that our favorite place in ATL is Fox Bros, and they hail from Texas.  This new place going to open near us might be good competition.

We've tried several other places that make the "top ten lists", have one yet to try really.  The others are "OK".
Yeah the new one is a John Lewis restaurant I believe.  He's fantastic, I think you'll like his stuff.
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« Reply #2582 on: July 04, 2024, 08:21:10 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 04, 2024, 08:14:37 AM
Menu looks legit, I'd eat that.  Love seeing chicken on the menu, smoked yardbird is an underrated dish.  It used to be super-common at Texas BBQ joints but for some reason seems to have somewhat fallen out of favor.  Smoked turkey is another delicious one that is less common on restaurant menus.
I think you would approve of the food. Interesting wife. I used to go to the gym with her.
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« Reply #2583 on: July 04, 2024, 08:25:41 AM »
New barbecue restaurant coming to Ansley Mall – WSB-TV Channel 2 - Atlanta (wsbtv.com)

The restaurant is known for having Central Texas-style barbecue and opened up its first location in 2015, according to its website.
It is unclear where in the mall the restaurant will be located.
The restaurant said it hopes to open sometime in 2025.

Lewis Barbecue Charleston

🔥Central Texas-style Barbecue in Charleston
🌮Mexican Food & Drink @rancholewis
464 N Nassau St, Charleston, South Carolina 29403


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« Reply #2584 on: July 04, 2024, 08:29:57 AM »
The Jamaicans perfected BBQ chicken. I'm hoping for more African fusion BBQ - goat is great. We have some african places in C0Bus, but none that really play up BBQ that I'm aware of.
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« Reply #2585 on: July 04, 2024, 08:30:23 AM »
I've not found great BBQ here in Florida, but I've also not looked hard at it.

I'm told to try this one. It's rather close. I suspect there is more BBQ as you move North in this State.

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« Reply #2586 on: July 04, 2024, 08:31:17 AM »
Ansley Mall is kind of interesting, a relic from maybe 1960, and always packed.  "Our" Kroger is next door to it.  Now the Beltline runs just behind it and someone built a bridge to connect the mall and Beltline.  I expect more restaurants and bars to open there soonish. 

It's an old outdoor mall that isn't swanky at all, it's "OK", but very popular, I guess it's the only mall nearish us.  They have a wine shop I don't much like and a few restaurants now and a gym of some sort and a rather high end cooking store.  In a day when malls all over are closing, it's interesting.

Location location and something else.



Lewis Barbecue Greenville | Hours + Location | Lewis Barbecue | Barbecue Restaurant in Charleston, SC

Menu looks solid.
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« Reply #2587 on: July 04, 2024, 08:32:12 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 04, 2024, 08:16:06 AM
Yeah the new one is a John Lewis restaurant I believe.  He's fantastic, I think you'll like his stuff.
A few years back I tried to go to his place in Charleston. It was good, but it was new then, and you could tell they were still getting things in place. 

I tried to go last month on a visit, but the line stood at least 50 deep and I didn't quite have the time for that. 

Thankfully I have two Daniel Vaughn-approved places within reasonable distances. 
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« Reply #2588 on: July 04, 2024, 08:33:12 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 04, 2024, 08:29:57 AM
The Jamaicans perfected BBQ chicken. I'm hoping for more African fusion BBQ - goat is great. We have some african places in C0Bus, but none that really play up BBQ that I'm aware of.
Yep. I hope the Jamaicans are OK today.
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« Reply #2589 on: July 04, 2024, 08:35:07 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 04, 2024, 08:29:57 AM
The Jamaicans perfected BBQ chicken. I'm hoping for more African fusion BBQ - goat is great. We have some african places in C0Bus, but none that really play up BBQ that I'm aware of.
In Mexico they BBQ goats, sheep, and pretty much anything else you can imagine. 

BBQ goat kid is called cabrito and is probably the single best BBQ dish I've ever had.  You can find it here in Austin but it gets more common the further south you go.
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