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« Reply #434 on: February 07, 2025, 10:20:10 AM »
We finished Yellowstone, then did 1883, and now are working through the first season of 1923.

1883 was depressing af.

Great performance by the gorgeous Isabel May...



...who left a recurring role in Young Sheldon for 1883. Speaking of sitcoms, I hear Hollywood really wants to bring sitcoms back to due to costs. A big reason why ABC's Shifting Gears with Tim Allen and Kat Dennings was greenlit. For now it's a rating hit; definitely captures the 90s sitcom heyday of low stakes laugh tracks.

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« Reply #435 on: February 07, 2025, 10:26:24 AM »
Yeah, affordability is the main reason we have so many competition and "reality" shows.  They're cheap to produce.  

My opinion-- you get what you pay for.


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« Reply #436 on: February 07, 2025, 10:40:15 AM »
Great performance by the gorgeous Isabel May...
Agreed. They needed some of those good performances by her, and Sam Elliott, to try to save the weakness that Tim/Faith brought to the show...

Harrison Ford & Helen Mirren are doing a MUCH better job leading the way in 1923. But that is as expected, as they're actors, not country singers :57:

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« Reply #437 on: February 07, 2025, 10:58:18 AM »
I bet Han Solo can sing a mean "Friends in Low Places."

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« Reply #438 on: February 07, 2025, 11:07:45 AM »
Yeah, affordability is the main reason we have so many competition and "reality" shows.  They're cheap to produce. 

My opinion-- you get what you pay for.


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« Reply #439 on: February 07, 2025, 12:16:07 PM »
Speaking of sitcoms, I hear Hollywood really wants to bring sitcoms back to due to costs. A big reason why ABC's Shifting Gears with Tim Allen and Kat Dennings was greenlit. For now it's a rating hit; definitely captures the 90s sitcom heyday of low stakes laugh tracks.
Yup.  Particularly with a limited "main" cast.

The productions costs on some of these shows have to be insane.  The Star Wars and Marvel shows on Disney+ have to cost as much as a movie.  Suddenly paying Tim Allen's salary doesn't seem so bad, when you can just stick him on a sound stage.  Will it get great ratings?  Probably not, but how many shows do anymore?  Viewership is so spread out

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« Reply #440 on: February 07, 2025, 12:20:18 PM »
The productions costs on some of these shows have to be insane.  The Star Wars and Marvel shows on Disney+ have to cost as much as a movie. 
100%. Game of Thrones had the problem as well. You do 10-15 episodes that cost $10-15 million per- you're spending 150-200 million a season to make a show. Plus the millions you have to spend on promotion. 

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« Reply #441 on: February 10, 2025, 04:26:13 PM »
Curiously, I ended up watching Emilia Perez this weekend. My wife and I didn't know what it was about, read the squib on Netflix, which was pretty vague, and said, "why not?" [SPOILERS TO FOLLOW, BUT I'M PROBABALY THE LAST TO KNOW...]

Then I thought about the comment somewhere on this site about it was just pushing too much of an agenda. I'm not sure that I agree. Maybe I'm the last to know that the story revolves around a character's sex change/gender transition (call it what you want). And yes, the character appears to be a better person after their surgery. BUT...the comment he makes before the surgery is that he can't live as he is--it's all going to fall apart on him. Then he becomes a she, but she also can't live as is. She makes decisions that inevitably result in her own death, and a lot of other bad things--unable to get away from who she was before. If I were to take a through line from this movie, the point is that whether he or she, the character was doomed. In the end she loses everything--just as he was worried would happen if he didn't make the change. And making that change is central to why everything falls apart.

So yeah, if you don't want to watch a movie where a trans person is at the center of the story (and a trans woman plays that character), then avoid it. But as for actual political messaging? I'm not sure that it's a big endorsement for how gender transition makes everything better. That's certainly not how things go in this movie.

The musical aspect of it was interesting; that was what sucked us in on the vague description of the movie. My wife speaks pretty good Spanish, but I needed the subtitles for all of it. Some of the scenes were excellent, a lot of them were just ok. For a couple of people who didn't start the movie expecting gender transition to be at the center of the plot, that was pretty jarring. But it was an interesting story.

And, unsurprising since it's based on an opera, the end is not exactly uplifting.

I think the Academy's nomination of it as a Best Film is more agenda pushing than the film itself. The movie is pretty good, but not best picture material (I don't think). I think Zoe Saldana does a great job, and generally the acting is good. The story is a little stilted (also typcial, since it's sort of a musical).

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« Reply #442 on: February 10, 2025, 08:49:49 PM »
Agreed. They needed some of those good performances by her, and Sam Elliott, to try to save the weakness that Tim/Faith brought to the show...

Harrison Ford & Helen Mirren are doing a MUCH better job leading the way in 1923. But that is as expected, as they're actors, not country singers :57:
Aside from his flying exploits, I'm pretty sure Ford wishes he lived this role in its time.  
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« Reply #443 on: February 14, 2025, 09:42:44 AM »
Then I thought about the comment somewhere on this site about it was just pushing too much of an agenda. I'm not sure that I agree. Maybe I'm the last to know that the story revolves around a character's sex change/gender transition (call it what you want). And yes, the character appears to be a better person after their surgery. BUT...the comment he makes before the surgery is that he can't live as he is--it's all going to fall apart on him. Then he becomes a she, but she also can't live as is. She makes decisions that inevitably result in her own death, and a lot of other bad things--unable to get away from who she was before. If I were to take a through line from this movie, the point is that whether he or she, the character was doomed. In the end she loses everything--just as he was worried would happen if he didn't make the change. And making that change is central to why everything falls apart.

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I think the Academy's nomination of it as a Best Film is more agenda pushing than the film itself. The movie is pretty good, but not best picture material (I don't think). I think Zoe Saldana does a great job, and generally the acting is good. The story is a little stilted (also typcial, since it's sort of a musical).
I think that's what we, or at least I, meant.  Every movie has a viewpoint, or a stance, I don't think that makes it an agenda.  But my wife and I both hated it, and looking at its reviews in real time, they weren't great.  Nominating it for all of those award seemed like the agenda.  And then it sort of backfired spectacularly

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« Reply #444 on: February 14, 2025, 09:49:28 AM »
Watched Anora last night.

I'm not a cinematographer, but something about they way they shot it felt cheap.  Mix in the fact that the first 20 minutes are entirely inside a strip club, I had to make sure I hadn't actually rented a softcore Cinemax spoof.

The first half of the movie was whatever, but it REALLY picks up once the two goons show up, and the second half I enjoyed a lot.  Starting to think nothing is really going to jump out as my clear #1 this year though.  My ratings of what I've seen

BEST PICTURE

  • Wicked
  • Anora
  • Conclave
  • Dune 2
  • Emilia Perez


BEST ACTOR

  • Ralph Finnes, Conclave
  • Sebastian Stan, The Apprentice


BEST ACTRESS

  • Mikey Madison, Anora
  • Cynthia Erivo, Wicked
  • Karla Sofia Gascon, Emilia Perez


SUPPORTING ACTOR

  • Jeremy Strong, The Apprentice
  • Kieran Culkin, A Real Pain
  • Yura Borisov, Anora


SUPPORTING ACTRESS

  • Zoe Saldana, Emilia Perez
  • Ariana Grande, Wicked
  • Isabella Rossellini, Conclave


I think the 3 Supporting Actor nominees I've seen might be the strongest field that award has ever had, and I haven't even seen the Ed Norton performance yet

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« Reply #445 on: February 16, 2025, 11:06:51 AM »
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« Reply #446 on: February 17, 2025, 11:16:00 AM »
Watched Anora last night.

I'm not a cinematographer, but something about they way they shot it felt cheap.  Mix in the fact that the first 20 minutes are entirely inside a strip club, I had to make sure I hadn't actually rented a softcore Cinemax spoof.

The first half of the movie was whatever, but it REALLY picks up once the two goons show up, and the second half I enjoyed a lot.  Starting to think nothing is really going to jump out as my clear #1 this year though.

Caught Anora as it hit theaters last fall. Agree, the club scenes were a bit much. In reading up on Anora's production, Director/Writer Sean Baker and lead actress Mikaela Madison spent a lot of time at strip clubs and with dancers and escorts to realistically depict their setting and day to day work. Outside of Anora's character, the rest of the film's dancers are real-life dancers and escorts, which Sean Baker likes to do - cast directly from his research material. 

For example, my introduction to Sean Baker was his 2017 film The Florida Project, which also has the same cheap look and freewheeling plot. The Florida Project follows around the antics of unsupervised children adventuring through their chaotic Orlando apartment complex. In trying to fill the role of one of the trashy mothers, Baker came across the Instagram of a heavily tatted, rock-groupy looking women smoking pot in nearly every one of her posts. Showing the pictures to one of his coproducers, he said we need to cast someone who can do this look. His coproducer said, why don't you just cast her? So he did.

For Anora's character, yes, cast an elite actress, and Mikaela Madison delivers, but for the rest of the characters, not only did Baker cast real dancers, but for the Russian family and their enforcers, he mined Russia's film industry, Mollywood (Moscow + Hollywood), for the best of Russia's acting talent to fill the Russian roles in Anora. The result makes for more of a fresher ride than, say, Shia LaBeouf or James Franco trying to fake an accent.

I think Anora could've been a tad better if edited down to two hours. The excessive opening club scene could've been cut in half, but I think that's Sean Baker and Mikaela Madison saying "If we had to spend this much time in here, then so do you!" And the 10-15 minute detour through the New York court hearing could've been skipped straight over by re-plotting that portion of the movie to just go straight back to Vegas to resolve their legal issues.

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« Reply #447 on: February 17, 2025, 01:21:47 PM »
Anybody else watching Silo on Apple?  I love a well done future dystopia movie. 

This one is novel as it depicts life after an apocalyptic event where the survivors live in a silo underground, completely self sufficient from any outside world needs. They also have lived this way for maybe 100+ years. 

The catch is that somehow over 100 years ago there was an uprising that resulted in the destruction of all knowledge and references to the outside world. The only information regular citizens have is from a camera outside the silo that depicts a lifeless, gray world. They have computers in the silo, but only very rudimentary ones like we had in the early 80’s. No tv, radio etc. anything from the “ before times “ is forbidden, they’re called relics.

 

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