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Topic: Orange Post Game: #3 Georgia 34, #2 Michigan 11
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Mdot21 · « **Reply #56 on:** December 06, 2021, 10:55:26 AM »

Quote from: MaximumSam on December 06, 2021, 10:52:46 AM

I could see McCarthy getting more time if Michigan struggles to move the ball.

he opens up their offense so much more....kid can do anything. they can roll him out and let him throw on the run, he can run that zone-read option and pick up chunks on the ground, and he can threaten every single part of the field with his ability to throw the ball. there are areas on the field Cade just can't hit or won't even attempt to simply because he doesn't have the arm.

You can do so much more with JJ as an offense- it's not even funny.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #57 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:00:29 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 10:50:51 AM

JJ isn't just mobile....he's fast! Kid has a howitzer for an arm too AND he can throw with touch & accuracy. His throwing motion/mechanics are literally perfect. I've only seen one QB in my entire time of watching Michigan football with same kind of natural talent as him- Drew Henson. These dudes had/have #1 overall NFL Draft pick talent.

I don't ever want to hear about Drew Henson,M fans spew bile that had he not signed with the Yankees they would have won another 2 MNC's and he woulda won the Hypseman and he woulda went on to a Brady/Bradshaw NFL career.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #58 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:08:44 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 10:25:22 AM

it's based on: size, physical ability, eyeball test, NFL Draftability. Cade is barely 6'ft but he's at least 6'ft. Bennett is 5'10. Cade's got a better arm- even if it's barely above average. The only thing Bennett does better than Cade is move around. Cade might wind up being a 6th or 7th round pick if he's lucky, Bennett will never sniff an NFL Draft.

I don't doubt that JT Daniels would be a better option than Bennett for a second. Kirby has proven he'll go with the inferior talent at QB- dude picked freaking Jake Fromm over the generational talent that was Justin Fields and it cost him a shot at a national title. They are playing for a title in 2018 & 2019 if he had just handed the reins over to Fields.

In other words, it's your opinion, not based on hard metrics, just an opinion, not a fact.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:10:12 AM »

Quote from: MrNubbz on December 06, 2021, 11:00:29 AM

I don't ever want to hear about Drew Henson,M fans spew bile that had he not signed with the Yankees they would have won another 2 MNC's and he woulda won the Hypseman and he woulda went on to a Brady/Bradshaw NFL career.

Not sure they would've won an MNC or if he would've had an incredible NFL career- but I am sure he would've been the #1 pick in the Draft had he played his senior year. Charlie Casserly who was the GM of the Texans at the time flat out said- if Henson plays his SR year- we're taking him #1. He quit the Michigan team right before his senior season and signed a contract with the Yankees and the Texans still drafted him in the 6th round and traded his rights to the Cowboys like 3-4 years later for a 3rd rd pick.

Drew Henson was PHENOMENALLY talented. Never seen a QB at Michigan like him. He only started 10 games, one as a true sophomore (5th year SR Tom Brady started the other 11) and 9 as a true junior (missed the first 3 games that season due to injury)- and he's still the gold standard when it comes to QB's at Michigan. JJ is the closest thing I've seen to him since.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #60 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:10:28 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on December 06, 2021, 11:08:44 AM

In other words, it's your opinion, not based on hard metrics, just an opinion, not a fact.

nope. it's fact.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #61 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:21:36 AM »

PFF's highest graded ege rushers for the year;

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1467879000278278148?s=20

Cincydawg · « **Reply #62 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:22:19 AM »

A fact, to me, is something quantative, based on metrics, or a natural law. It's a fact for example that McNamara has a better completion percentage than does Bennett. It's also a fact he threw for more yards, 2,470 vs 2325 (Bennett had one fewer game, he didn't play against Clemson). It's a fact Bennett had more TD throws, 24 to 15.

Those are all facts. An OPINION would be one is a better QB than the other, and it is fine to have opinions. I'm not here to defend Bennett. He doesn't need it. I just like to note facts and opinions for what they are.

It is a fact the spread is 7 points or so, and it's my opinion that is too high.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #63 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:29:12 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on December 06, 2021, 11:22:19 AM

A fact, to me, is something quantative, based on metrics, or a natural law. It's a fact for example that McNamara has a better completion percentage than does Bennett. It's also a fact he threw for more yards, 2,470 vs 2325 (Bennett had one fewer game, he didn't play against Clemson). It's a fact Bennett had more TD throws, 24 to 15.

Those are all facts. An OPINION would be one is a better QB than the other, and it is fine to have opinions. I'm not here to defend Bennett. He doesn't need it. I just like to note facts and opinions for what they are.

It is a fact the spread is 7 points or so, and it's my opinion that is too high.

I was being a smart ass lol. I know it's just opinion. I don't think either QB is all-that. Both teams have a 5* QB on the bench.

I think Michigan would be a heckuva lot better team right now had they started JJ day one and let him grow and work out the kinks and get those growing pains. They also might not be 12-1 however. Might've suffered a couple more losses along the way letting the young fella take his licks. He wasn't even 18 when he enrolled early at Michigan and skipped the latter part of his senior year in high school. Cade is a junior who had been at Michigan and in the system for 2+ years- he had a massive head-start on JJ.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #64 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:31:15 AM »

Blake Corum is a legit 4.3/4.4 guy- real speed demon. To see JJ catch up to him and throw a block for him...how fast is JJ!

https://twitter.com/PFF_Anthony/status/1467307404421472256?s=20

Mdot21 · « **Reply #65 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:40:38 AM »

MOAR football porn from JJ: The fact that he doesn't get hardly any 1st team reps in practice and they throw him in for plays....plays...not entire stretches or series....at a position that takes a lot of repetition in practice to get better at and takes entire series in games in order to get into a rhythm- and he basically just comes off the bench cold and does remarkable things- holy shit man. holy. f'ng shit. He's a skinny little 18 year old twerp still, and his considerable arm strength will only get even stronger as he adds another 15-20 lbs of muscle over the next couple years. I don't know how Harbaugh fights the urge to not start this kid. Wtf man. You give him more 1st team reps and more playing time and he's going to just get better.

https://twitter.com/CBSSports/status/1434237707954401286?s=20

https://twitter.com/DylanDylanShow/status/1444380662253895693?s=20

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https://twitter.com/JamesYoder/status/1462177938032533511?s=20

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Cincydawg · « **Reply #66 on:** December 06, 2021, 12:04:29 PM »

Watch: Brock Bowers explodes for 77-yard TD (usatoday.com)

This fellow is from Napa, a freshman, had a pretty good season.

Brock Bowers Stats | ESPN

UGA was down two starting WRs most of the year, they just got George Pickens back, which should help if he's near 100%. Pickens was a highlight reel in his first two years.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #67 on:** December 06, 2021, 12:13:18 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on December 06, 2021, 12:04:29 PM

Watch: Brock Bowers explodes for 77-yard TD (usatoday.com)

This fellow is from Napa, a freshman, had a pretty good season.

Brock Bowers Stats | ESPN

UGA was down two starting WRs most of the year, they just got George Pickens back, which should help if he's near 100%. Pickens was a highlight reel in his first two years.

Bowers is the best TE in the country. Well aware of him. He reminds me of George Kittle- explosive playmaker. He's a future 1st round pick.

George Pickens reminds me a lot of Nico Collins. Both are from Alabama, and very similar games. Almost clones. Excellent player.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #68 on:** December 06, 2021, 02:24:13 PM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 11:10:12 AM

Drew Henson was PHENOMENALLY talented. Never seen a QB at Michigan like him. He only started 10 games, one as a true sophomore (5th year SR Tom Brady started the other 11) and 9 as a true junior (missed the first 3 games that season due to injury)- and he's still the gold standard when it comes to QB's at Michigan. JJ is the closest thing I've seen to him since.

So are tons of them that come/go just because he sashayed thru Schembechler Hall doesn't project to the lofty heights you've assigned for him.And if Casserly said that he was blowing bombast out his backside.He wouldn't have touched him w/o a full last year of productivity & film - not with the very 1st pick.You're harkening back thru the dim mists of antiquity,so it will always be better than it actually was

Mdot21 · « **Reply #69 on:** December 06, 2021, 02:28:45 PM »

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