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I agree to an extent but there's a significant difference between COVID vs car accidents and food poisoning that makes our behavioral changes for COVID more sensible...

COVID is contagious. Car accidents and food poisoning are not.

I'd also be interested to see the scale. I'm sure more people die in auto accidents. I kinda doubt that many people die of food poisoning. Maybe we expand to hospitalizations. 

The thing I'm trying to figure out is what is the COVID equivalent of drives or restaurant meals. That's a tricky base number. I guess you would to to exposures? Interactions? That would be pretty high, though obviously you have them at an incredible volume. 

I still kind of imagine we'll get bored at some point. We'll accept the nihilism of our situation. Some folks will die. So it goes. 

Maybe, but @bayareabadger specifically stated it "makes me a person who pretends risk isn't there."  That might be true for him, but it's certainly not true for me.

As in all other facets of life, I'm simply weighing various risks, and making decisions based on what I feel the threat level to be.  COVID is one of those, but it's certainly not the only one, and I think that's what @CatsbyAZ is getting at.

I sort of touched on this above, but the implication was that accepting the risk was a badge of honor. I wanted to point out that accepting the risk can also be a case of recklessness. 

I'm not arguing, AH HA, these kids or players are necessarily being reckless. I don't know if they are. But I'm saying taking a risk is itself does not make one a more sturdy individual. 

A few years back, I found myself unable to get a cab back to a friend's place after a night at Madison bars. I felt mostly fine after six or so beers. I realized my choices were to wait until 5 am or so, sleep in my backseat or brave what would most likely be a somewhat tense ride home. If the unlikely outcome played out, I was out a not small of money, messed up my driving record, maybe put my job in jeopardy. In the moment, it felt like a risk worth taking. After I got home safely, I'm not sure it was. But there's no badge for that.

Maybe risking getting COVID is a drive on the freeway. Maybe it's getting behind the wheel after a couple too many. I suppose that's a question for the philosophers and statisticians. 

Well if the players unanimously want to play like for example at Ohio State, and can opt out at any time but don’t, and the parents of the players have put in writing that they support playing, and the coaches and assistant coaches all agree then why does the Big Ten have the right to tell them they can’t?  They say they feel less likely to spread it in this environment. They are doing everything possible with masks and distancing, housing arrangements and everything else.

When should they be allowed to play? And there’s a vaccine? What if there isn’t one? You’re partially right this is bizarro world but for the exact opposite reasons that you state

What does "play" mean here?
If they just want to play football, I'm sure that there are parks and unused soccer and rugby fields where they could get up a game.

This feels like it was a trial balloon idea to see if they could bait the SEC and ACC into following suit, but it could as easily have been a leak by someone who wanted to scuttle the talk of cancellation that was coming. Either way, hopefully wiser heads prevail.

What is the freaking harm in trying it out? At least play a couple of games before pulling the plug. If it turns out to be an absolute mess and they have to cancel the season a few weeks in, fine. I think we all understand it will not be a smooth ride. But at least give it a shot. 

More anonymous sources:

"Early Monday evening, a source told cleveland.com that Ohio State does not expect a Big Ten vote tonight on canceling football for 2020, but if one happened, incoming President Kristina M. Johnson would vote against cancellation."

www.cleveland.com/osu/2020/08/big-ten-conference-has-voted-to-cancel-football-and-fall-sports-for-2020-according-to-reports.html

Well know I KNOW The right thing to do is to let those college football players go ahead with their season if that’s what they choose to do. 

What convinced me? Watching some female moron on MSNBC talking to a liberal Democrat somewhere and they both came to the conclusion that the only people that want to play college football are far right wingers who “want to change the subject“

How do people that fucking stupid and moronic even make it to television? Politicizing college football. Now I’ve seen it all.

They make it because they say bombastic things that you remember. 

99 percent of cable news is jabbering nonsense. But you watched it, and then ported the jabbering nonsense to us. I was curious if I could find the offending segment quickly. I couldn't. These people are on TV because they made you a carrier who reminds others that MSNBC is a brand that exists. And if they had a reasonable discussion when everyone agreed to disagree at the end, you would just forget you had it on at all and not tell anyone. 

This nonsense thrives on attention from those it influences and those it enrages. The only thing that starves it is not watching and not talking about it. (I think college football has been politicized for a long time in different ways. Nature of that beast)

Well know I KNOW The right thing to do is to let those college football players go ahead with their season if that’s what they choose to do. 

What convinced me? Watching some female moron on MSNBC talking to a liberal Democrat somewhere and they both came to the conclusion that the only people that want to play college football are far right wingers who “want to change the subject“

How do people that fucking stupid and moronic even make it to television? Politicizing college football. Now I’ve seen it all.

They don’t seem to have a problem with NBA players breathing all over each other for 60 minutes but college football players who will be wearing face shields well that’s a different story.  Maybe they will change their minds if we get China to sponsor college football like it does the NBA

Jesus Christ dude. I'm right of center and even I think the bombastic politics you feel the need to insert in every post you make is downright cringe worthy.