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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2024, 12:10:02 PM »
I could go for that. 
Take ND out of the B1G and put them in the Big East to replace UCF. Iowa to the Big Ten. UNLV to the Big 8, or whoever they choose.
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2024, 12:14:10 PM »
Yup.  Even if you had a 7-5 type season, maybe MSU got bragging rights over Michigan, or maybe they ruined Ohio State or Penn State's championship hopes.

Even if MSU had upset Oregon last week, ok, whatever.  I've never met an Oregon fan in my life, and I have no random guy who played for them a decade ago who was a little too cocky for my liking as an opposing fan that I hate.


Consider yourself lucky. Extremely arrogant fan base.
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2024, 12:40:23 PM »
I briefly  met some Oregon fans here a couple years back.  They were packing up outside a local hotel and I chatted with them.  They seemed normal, to me.

I'm not convinced any fan base is worse than most others, I hear Nebraska has the best fans.  Ole Miss fans were pretty cool.

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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2024, 12:42:17 PM »
I briefly  met some Oregon fans here a couple years back.  They were packing up outside a local hotel and I chatted with them.  They seemed normal, to me.

I'm not convinced any fan base is worse than most others, I hear Nebraska has the best fans.  Ole Miss fans were pretty cool.
That's because they don't have a superiority complex for Georgia.
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2024, 07:53:06 AM »

What do you guys think?
I think this part pisses me off.
Also included are tiers, based on performance, and given different monies.  As long as we don't have teams with 8-4 records winning the NC all the time, we're good.
So we're going to have 70 teams, and we're going to bake in the relative non-parity, instead of actually trying to have a system with parity. 

Helmets gonna helmet, I guess. 

I guess I should just be happy my team will be able to be the doormat instead of not being allowed on the property. 

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2024, 08:19:44 AM »
doormats get paid
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2024, 10:32:01 AM »
doormats get paid
Yeah.  I guess a way to think about it, for non-helmets, is-- do you care about any OTHER sports?  For example, as I recall, Purdue traditionally has a pretty good roundball team, and Purdue fans seem to care about that silly sport.

So, if you DO like other sports, well, being in a top football conference, is how you pay for them, regardless of whether or not your actual football team is ever going to challenge for a championship.

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2024, 10:34:36 AM »
Ed Zachery
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2024, 11:58:18 AM »
I think this part pisses me off.So we're going to have 70 teams, and we're going to bake in the relative non-parity, instead of actually trying to have a system with parity.

Helmets gonna helmet, I guess.

I guess I should just be happy my team will be able to be the doormat instead of not being allowed on the property.
Yeah, I don't get that part.  I get it, but I don't.

The fact that the number is 70 made me believe the powers that be (or a newfangled Disney omni-god boardroom) understood that having the full (P4-P5) bell curve of teams/schools ensured that you'd have the elite programs and the chum programs, allowing for continued 11-1 type records going forward.
But the tiered system makes it look like the helmet programs don't believe in their own helmet-ness and they want to deny the mid-level and low-level programs even their once-in-a-decade/generation peaks...which is odd.  You have every single built-in, institutional advantage...but that's not enough?!?  You also need to suppress the oppressed??? 
Why?

You're Alabama, why do you need to limit Miss State's oxygen?  You're Michigan, why do you need to ration Minnesota's food?  It's just bizarre.
There's no need.  You get steak and they get a hotdog, and you go the extra mile to say they only get half a hotdog.  
Fuck that noise.  
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2024, 12:05:06 PM »


You're Alabama, why do you need to limit Miss State's oxygen?  You're Michigan, why do you need to ration Minnesota's food?  It's just bizarre.

Because one point lost in all of this realignment discussion is that in these super-conferences, someone's gotta eat the losses. And the helmets don't want to dine at that table.

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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2024, 12:08:27 PM »
greed

why give the gophers something if you can have it

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2024, 12:09:19 PM »
Because one point lost in all of this realignment discussion is that in these super-conferences, someone's gotta eat the losses. And the helmets don't want to dine at that table.
Taking away the have-not's glimmer of hope is stupid and bad for the sport.  Really smart people can be really stupid sometimes, especially when near-future money is involved.  The health of the sport is what matters most, and they don't see it.  

Evidence of that:  SEC & B1G are like 'Nah'
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2024, 12:10:28 PM »
Yeah.  I guess a way to think about it, for non-helmets, is-- do you care about any OTHER sports?  For example, as I recall, Purdue traditionally has a pretty good roundball team, and Purdue fans seem to care about that silly sport.

So, if you DO like other sports, well, being in a top football conference, is how you pay for them, regardless of whether or not your actual football team is ever going to challenge for a championship.
Yeah, so be happy with your second-tier status, because the alternative is we just kick you out entirely. 

Which is the same BS that the G5 has been dealing with for decades. 

I say, why keep the lie going? Why make this a 70-team league. We know that's not what the helmets and helmet-adjacent teams actually want. 

If you're not going to do SOMETHING to try to actually have parity, take your 32 top teams and stop lying to us that we're equal when you're deliberately setting up a tiered system where we can't be equal. 

You're Alabama, why do you need to limit Miss State's oxygen?  You're Michigan, why do you need to ration Minnesota's food?  It's just bizarre.
There's no need.  You get steak and they get a hotdog, and you go the extra mile to say they only get half a hotdog. 
Fuck that noise. 
Because you have to keep the boot on their neck, so that they know no matter how hard they fight, they'll NEVER, EVER get steak. 

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2024, 12:11:50 PM »
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