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I assume there is both- those who start with nearly insurmountable obstacles who are able to find a way, and those who want to, try extremely hard, but the obstacles are just too much. 

I think it is naive to not think that there are many people who are very successful, but wouldn’t have been had they faced those obstacles.  Likewise- I think it is naive to not think there are many who struggle badly, who wouldn’t if they had more readily available opportunities. As Drew said- to some degree or in some way, it has always been that way. 

Too me the real questions ( the ones we all fight over) are:
-what can be done realistically to remove those obstacles and create  opportunities?

And

How much can be taken ( involuntarily) from those who are successful to be given to those who are not or not yet?  The redistribution of wealth problem. 

I emphasize the word “ involuntarily” because a connecting and very impacting side effect is this:
Much of the resource today that goes to help feed, educate, provide for and mentor those with low income, comes from private sector people and businesses (like 847 AND his business).  

If you tax them more- their ability to make those contributions is greatly reduced. That is a reality. 

That’s is the debate. 

If you think the debate is about 847's tax dollars, then I'm done.  FFS.

If that’s what you got from my post you should be done FFS.  

read it carefully this time.  That is what I call an issue ver connected to the debate, but not the debate itself. 

So... education reform. Where to start?

Abolishing the Federal Department of Education would be a place to start. It's a useless entity and a waste of money. 

Next, work on curricula.

No more teacher unions. Reduce administrative staff. Consolidate school districts.

All of that will increase the amount of money that goes to students, and to teachers.


As of July 1, 2018, there were 852 public school districts: 368 elementary districts, 97 high school districts, 386 unit districts, and one Illinois Department of Juvenile Justice district.


This is a ridiculous number of tax-funded entities. Many of these school districts have only ONE school!!

Florida has 75 school districs.

If that’s what you got from my post you should be done FFS. 

read it carefully this time.  That is what I call an issue ver connected to the debate, but not the debate itself.

You ended it with "that is the debate", so that's how I got that from your post.

do you eat the food?

Just curious

This connects to the born on 3rd thing.  Yes, it's post-birth (longhorn), but simple nutrition.  On the Rez, I was all gung-ho for our best team in years to face a team from Sedona with a similar record.  And the veteran Rez coach just shook his head at me.
"We're playing a team of players who have had 3 square meals a day their whole lives."  

Oh.  
Yeah....they curb-stomped us.

A bleeding heart for the dictators of industry.  Wow.

They throw their hands up, crying "we can't supply any better food" yet they manage to make enough money to continue existing.  Poor them.  

How about if we can't feed our children decent food, we fix the industry?