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« Reply #40810 on: December 13, 2024, 07:36:21 AM »

Trump wants to shut down the Department of Education. Here’s what that could mean | CNN Politics


Two of the biggest funding programs for K-12 schools are the Title I program, which is meant to help educate children from low-income families, and the IDEA program, which provides schools with money to help meet the needs of children with disabilities.
These programs help fulfill the department’s congressionally declared purpose of “ensuring access to equal educational opportunity for every individual.”
Together, these programs provide K-12 schools with about $28 billion a year. But federal funding typically accounts for roughly just 10% of all school funding because the rest comes from state and local taxes. That said, schools received additional federal funding over the past four years to help them recover from the Covid-19 pandemic.
The Department of Education also distributes about $30 billion a year to low-income college students via the Pell grant program and manages the $1.6 trillion student loan portfolio.





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« Reply #40811 on: December 13, 2024, 07:43:21 AM »
This New Jersey drone thing is bordering on hysteria.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/drones-mystery-new-jersey-homeowners-threaten-take-matters-own-hands-govt-doesnt-act


I saw some of these "drones" on Fox News last night and they were completely obvious airliners or planes.  I imagine its easier to see what the lights through the TV camera lenses than with your naked eyes.  So, I'm somewhat concerned that some idiot will start banging away at one of things and it turns out to be a commuter plane.  Never underestimate the stupidity of frightened people.
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« Reply #40812 on: December 13, 2024, 07:47:09 AM »
Mysterious aircraft are flying over New Jersey. Here’s what big drones are made for | CNN Business

I figure is they were foreign drones being used for recon they wouldn't be showing lights at night.

And yes, they could be helicopters or planes, even light planes, but you'd think folks would be used to them.  Maybe a new airport opened nearby that is for Cessnas.


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« Reply #40813 on: December 13, 2024, 07:49:04 AM »

Trump wants to shut down the Department of Education. Here’s what that could mean | CNN Politics


Two of the biggest funding programs for K-12 schools are the Title I program, which is meant to help educate children from low-income families, and the IDEA program, which provides schools with money to help meet the needs of children with disabilities.

as we know and as CNN won't tell, just because the department goes away, that doesn't mean the funding programs or the funding will go away
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« Reply #40814 on: December 13, 2024, 07:49:56 AM »
Mysterious aircraft are flying over New Jersey. Here’s what big drones are made for | CNN Business

I figure is they were foreign drones being used for recon they wouldn't be showing lights at night.

And yes, they could be helicopters or planes, even light planes, but you'd think folks would be used to them.  Maybe a new airport opened nearby that is for Cessnas.


Cessnas, and many of them at night?
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« Reply #40815 on: December 13, 2024, 07:54:28 AM »
Cessnas, and many of them at night?
It's possible, with a smaller airport nearby.  One requirement for getting your private license without a limitation is to do a crosscountry at night and at least three night landings.  Granted traffic is usually down, but you might have a new flight "academy" nearby teaching students to fly at night.  You also need to keep up that skill once you are licensed if you ever want to fly at night.  I never did.

It's nicer in some ways to fly at night.

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« Reply #40816 on: December 13, 2024, 07:58:21 AM »
very pretty flying at around 10,000' over the Iowa countryside at night, with all the lights and windmill farms and small towns
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« Reply #40817 on: December 13, 2024, 08:00:52 AM »
I very rarely got over 6,000 feet.  The aircraft ceiling was 12,000 as I recall, and you needed oxygen above that for the pilot.  Around a city you can get into controlled airspace nearer a commercial airport.  Cincinnati ended up being a Class B airport, the largest designation, with a pretty wide footprint.


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« Reply #40818 on: December 13, 2024, 01:06:30 PM »
as we know and as CNN won't tell, just because the department goes away, that doesn't mean the funding programs or the funding will go away
I take it as CNN won't do the deep dive to actually analyze it, because real journalism is time consuming and expensive, and what people pay to watch is commentators yelling at each other.

Nonetheless, this is a good point. One that your friendly neighborhood lefty actually agrees with you on. I heard a liberal member of congress tell me in a very small group setting that getting rid of the Education Department probably makes sense. From my own perspective: (a) keeping those programs is more important than keeping the department; and (b) the reason the left likes having this argument is because "killing education" is a good sound byte that the masses react to. Imagine that--politicians sometimes care more about the soundbyte than the issue.

Also, yes, there's some money to save, but no, it's not close to what Elon and Vivek say they are after--and they are going to run into politicians from both sides of the aisle that care a great deal about most, if not all, of these programs. 

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« Reply #40819 on: December 13, 2024, 01:11:01 PM »
I take it as CNN won't do the deep dive to actually analyze it, because real journalism is time consuming and expensive, and what people pay to watch is commentators yelling at each other.
doesn't take a deep dive, CNN knows it.
Just chose not to report it, because yelling at each other is more dramatic and makes more $$$
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« Reply #40820 on: December 13, 2024, 01:44:49 PM »
This New Jersey drone thing is bordering on hysteria.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/drones-mystery-new-jersey-homeowners-threaten-take-matters-own-hands-govt-doesnt-act


I saw some of these "drones" on Fox News last night and they were completely obvious airliners or planes.  I imagine its easier to see what the lights through the TV camera lenses than with your naked eyes.  So, I'm somewhat concerned that some idiot will start banging away at one of things and it turns out to be a commuter plane.  Never underestimate the stupidity of frightened people.
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« Reply #40821 on: December 13, 2024, 09:47:23 PM »
A big thing public education does and was created for was to lift the floor of the knowledge level of the masses.  We all have at least a similar-enough foundation of learning and knowledge to really interact with each other.  No longer do you have these pockets of 'others' that might as well be a different species, due to their world view being so completely different than the rest of us.  We receive at least a rudimentary level of knowledge to allow everyone to read, write their thoughts out in a manner that can be understood, and number computation to work problems out for ourselves.  That's a big deal. 
I don't think people realize what the ramifications of only educating those in privileged positions and even those who seek it out would look like. 
It's not really helpful to anyone if an entire legion of our populace doesn't know jack shit. 
A great mechanic might not need these skills to be a great mechanic, but it's nice that he can read a note left from a fellow mechanic about a car, write a note for a fellow mechanic or the customer, and maybe tabulate multiple costs and a tax to the bill.  These are things we take for granted now, and it's because of the Dept of Education.

Now obviously, there's a ton more nuanced, complicated, and tactful aspects to it all that matter and come into play here, but from its origins, that's the most basic one. 

If we keep leaving important entities like the DOE to the states (you know, The States of America, not the United States of America), the gaps that already exist like between the people of Mississippi and New England are going to explode.  And over time, certain areas of our country will become what Trump might call "shithole states."
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« Reply #40822 on: December 14, 2024, 09:29:48 AM »
NEW YORK (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump wants to turn the lights out on daylight saving time.

In a post on his social media site Friday, Trump said his party would try to end the practice when he returns to office.

“The Republican Party will use its best efforts to eliminate Daylight Saving Time, which has a small but strong constituency, but shouldn’t! Daylight Saving Time is inconvenient, and very costly to our Nation,” he wrote.

Setting clocks forward one hour in the spring and back an hour in the fall is intended to maximize daylight during summer months, but has long been subject to scrutiny. Daylight saving time was first adopted as a wartime measure in 1942.

Lawmakers have occasionally proposed getting rid of the time change altogether. The most prominent recent attempt, a now-stalled bipartisan bill named the Sunshine Protection Act, had proposed making daylight saving time permanent.

The measure was sponsored by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, whom Trump has tapped to helm the State Department.

“Changing the clock twice a year is outdated and unnecessary,” Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida said as the Senate voted in favor of the measure.
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« Reply #40823 on: December 14, 2024, 09:33:55 AM »
A big thing public education does and was created for was to lift the floor of the knowledge level of the masses. 
This is true, and was true, and would be true, with no Department of Education.  We have "HEW" back in the day, the creation of this new department was meant to improve eduction.  By about any metric, it has not, it probably has helped fund programs for the "retarded" and some of the poor, which is fine I guess.  If that was their goal, I'd say OK depending on how much was spent for how much benefit.

My family was all in education except me (I had a few years teaching lab course in college).  I obviously was very interested in getting my kids education in public schools.  I saw the massive disparity in funding between our district and districts with little tax base.

 

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