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bayareabadger

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« Reply #39214 on: November 11, 2024, 09:14:02 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 11, 2024, 09:08:30 AM
FDR was never in the military.  Many Presidents back then never served.  It was a thing after the Civil War because generals had name recognition, then it slid away some as time passed.  Then Truman and Ike restarted it. 


From 1909 to 1945, no President had military service.
That big gap is interesting, but it makes sense WWII kind or restarted it. 

Also interesting how many folks they used to refuse for physical reasons. 
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« Reply #39215 on: November 11, 2024, 09:14:49 AM »
WWI was nothing?
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« Reply #39216 on: November 11, 2024, 09:17:47 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 11, 2024, 07:46:24 AM
I think a Democratic candidate for national office has to voice independence clearly from the less popular progressive "memes" out there and cut those links.
It’s an interesting one because it sort of courts chaos and bad vibes. Like standing against those doesn’t win people, but being quiet also loses people. 

I’ll say this for Trump, he’s fit nicely with a the sort of big tent dissonance that was already kind of there within the Republican Party, and managed to sort of unintentionally push it even more. 
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« Reply #39217 on: November 11, 2024, 09:18:28 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 11, 2024, 07:06:00 AM
I'm trying to think of the last President who served.

Eisenhower comes to mind.
Geez, man, that was like 60-70 years ago. Off the top of my head, here are all the presidents who served:

-JFK Obviously WWII
-I don't think Nixon served, but I really don't know much about him.
-Ford, not sure about him either.
-Carter was a Navy man, if I'm not mistaken a Nuclear Submariner engineer.  
Reagan AFAIK did not serve, but if he did it would have been WWI (joke)
Bush WWII
Clinton DNS
Bush II Reserves or whatever they call the National Guard as a pilot.  No combat.
Obama DNS
Trump DNS (heel spurs?!)
Biden-I honestly don't know, but if he did it would have been the Civil War (joke!)


I forgot about Johnson, but I think DNS. 
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« Reply #39218 on: November 11, 2024, 09:20:08 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 11, 2024, 09:14:49 AM
WWI was nothing?
It was something, but it produced two presidents, who both served after WWII. One wasn’t really identified with his military career and the other was identified with WWII.

So in the scope of producing presidents, it wasn’t much? 
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« Reply #39219 on: November 11, 2024, 09:22:41 AM »
just seems odd to me that WWII produced serviced presidents and WWI didn't
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« Reply #39220 on: November 11, 2024, 09:24:13 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on November 11, 2024, 09:18:28 AM
Geez, man, that was like 60-70 years ago. Off the top of my head, here are all the presidents who served:

-JFK Obviously WWII
-I don't think Nixon served, but I really don't know much about him.
-Ford, not sure about him either.
-Carter was a Navy man, if I'm not mistaken a Nuclear Submariner engineer. 
Reagan AFAIK did not serve, but if he did it would have been WWI (joke)
Bush WWII
Clinton DNS
Bush II Reserves or whatever they call the National Guard as a pilot.  No combat.
Obama DNS
Trump DNS (heel spurs?!)
Biden-I honestly don't know, but if he did it would have been the Civil War (joke!)


I forgot about Johnson, but I think DNS.

Nixon was in the military, but it looks like just supply and such. I believe Ford saw combat. Reagan made PR films. It doesn’t look like Biden served.
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« Reply #39221 on: November 11, 2024, 09:24:39 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on November 11, 2024, 09:18:28 AM
-I don't think Nixon served, but I really don't know much about him.

-Ford, not sure about him either.

I forgot about Johnson, but I think DNS.

Nixon was a Naval Lieutenant, but not sure if he saw any combat

Ford was also Navy, and I believe saw Pacific action in WW2

LBJ did not serve, but he was too young for WW1, and was already in the US House by WW2
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« Reply #39222 on: November 11, 2024, 09:24:57 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 11, 2024, 09:22:41 AM
just seems odd to me that WWII produced serviced presidents and WWI didn't
I think we were less involved and the war seemed like more of an inconvenience? Plus an extremely large number of people came back and immediately died from the flu.
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« Reply #39223 on: November 11, 2024, 09:25:55 AM »
Quote from: ELA on November 11, 2024, 09:24:39 AM
Nixon was a Naval Lieutenant, but not sure if he saw any combat

Ford was also Navy, and I believe saw Pacific action in WW2

LBJ did not serve, but he was too young for WW1, and was already in the US House by WW2
LBJ “served,” but it was kinda a joke. He did go up in a plane as an observer at least once and apparently was very interested and more fearless than he should’ve been. 
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« Reply #39224 on: November 11, 2024, 09:30:28 AM »
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« Reply #39225 on: November 11, 2024, 10:41:07 AM »
WW One was brief in terms of US involvement.  We declared war in 1917 but barely had an army worth noting.  It was 1918 before some numbers of US troops got to France and they still needed training, and the AEF was still numerically small compared with the French.  We had significant forces during the Ludendorf offensive in 1918 and then the war ended in a few months.  So, for us, WW One was about 6 months long.
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« Reply #39226 on: November 11, 2024, 10:45:16 AM »
Prior to WW One, the USMC was very small, basically serving as guards on ships and at embassies, rarely in the news.  Then the Marines assembled two infantry brigades that served as part of the 2nd Army infantry division and got noticed, first at Belleau Wood, most Americans had never heard of them previously.

The first Marine Division was not constituted until 1940, then six were assembled in WW 2, all in the Pacific, in contrast with nearly 100 Army divisions.

The Russians had over 300 army divisions in WW2, but they were smaller, and with less logistical tail.
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« Reply #39227 on: November 11, 2024, 11:06:38 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 11, 2024, 10:41:07 AM
WW One was brief in terms of US involvement.  We declared war in 1917 but barely had an army worth noting.  It was 1918 before some numbers of US troops got to France and they still needed training, and the AEF was still numerically small compared with the French.  We had significant forces during the Ludendorf offensive in 1918 and then the war ended in a few months.  So, for us, WW One was about 6 months long.
and probably not much for Generals as far as battle

apparently, Black Jack Pershing wasn't inclined to politics


There was a movement to draft Pershing as a candidate for president in 1920; he refused to campaign, but indicated that he "wouldn't decline to serve" if the people wanted him.[118] Though Pershing was a Republican, many of his party's leaders considered him too closely tied to the policies of the Democratic Party's President Woodrow Wilson.[119] Another general, Leonard Wood, was the early Republican front runner, but the nomination went to Senator Warren G. Harding of Ohio, who went on to win the general election.
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