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Cincydawg

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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2019, 10:00:32 AM »
https://thespun.com/college-football/report-8-team-college-football-playoff-considered?fbclid=IwAR1jrdGEJWfWbz_LUVZom4xKhvmK_B3mMVZSj1k1oketxq9ijuZEvZzeH1I

The 8 team thing is rearing its ugly rumor head again right on time.

This year, we'd have the current four plus Oregon, Memphis, and two at large, I'd guess UGA and Baylor.  None of those strike me as real playoff caliber teams, but whatever.

LSU - Memphis
OSU - Baylor
Clemson - UGA
OU- Oregon

I guess so, played in bowl locations or home fields?
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2019, 10:22:54 AM »
I'm seeing 3 ugly blowouts there.  That's what we want - playoff blowouts!
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2019, 10:27:54 AM »
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2019, 03:49:11 PM »
Here is my ELA-esque 8 team playoff for this year with fabricated results:

LSU - Memphis  52-13
OSU - Baylor   37-10
Clemson - UGA   38-13
OU- Oregon   42-31


LSU - OU   45-37

OSU - Clemson 35-31

LSU - OSU   28-34  Ohio State, National Champions 2019.  Or 2020, depending.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2019, 03:56:42 PM »
People wanting the top G5 team to get into an 8-team playoff must be a descendant of someone who enjoyed public executions.  That G5 team will almost always be the 8 seed and face #1.  It would become an annual public ass-beating.  


No thanks.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2019, 04:11:13 PM »
Not only that, but the One Seed could come up with a key injury to a critical player and suddenly not be nearly as good.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2019, 04:13:10 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 15, 2019, 03:56:42 PM
People wanting the top G5 team to get into an 8-team playoff must be a descendant of someone who enjoyed public executions.  That G5 team will almost always be the 8 seed and face #1.  It would become an annual public ass-beating. 


No thanks.
Hmmm, I think you just might have described the needed intermediate step to a G5 five playoff.

and the only cost is the last team in is number seven instead of number eight. I like it.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2019, 04:49:52 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 15, 2019, 03:56:42 PM
People wanting the top G5 team to get into an 8-team playoff must be a descendant of someone who enjoyed public executions.  That G5 team will almost always be the 8 seed and face #1.  It would become an annual public ass-beating. 


No thanks.
it would make working for the #1 seed of some value

mostly an easier first round win
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2019, 05:25:54 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 15, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
it would make working for the #1 seed of some value

mostly an easier first round win
Yep. Plus upsets happen; Boise over Oklahoma, Utah over Bama, BYU over the Wolverines, etc.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2019, 05:51:55 PM »
I love that the big upsets are always big-boy teams that just lost out on a championship to play for....but it's not a thing.  
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2019, 06:03:26 PM »
Under the proposed format we will finally find out.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2019, 06:30:11 PM »
I used to think in most years, we'd have one 13-0 team and 4 12-1 teams, or 2 and 2 more 11-2 teams, vying for spots.  The last two years have made me question that.

Clemson did play a bad slate, but South Carolina and Texas A&M in general is not a terrible OOC slate.  They can't fix the ACC.  LSU played Texas, which is a top tier matchup usually.  Ohio State plays a 9 game conference slate and did face Cincinnati (and blow them out).  I think the jury is out on whether it's better to play a tough OOC slate or try and soft soap through it.
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #68 on: December 15, 2019, 06:39:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 15, 2019, 05:51:55 PM
I love that the big upsets are always big-boy teams that just lost out on a championship to play for....but it's not a thing. 
I mean, yes. Every team in a BCS bowl that isn't playing for the whole thing lost out in some way. The ones that win and the ones that lose. 

But anyway, if that works out that way, and the G5 team loses by 30 a game five years running, you go to them and say, "Hey y'all, you get the payout to go away and have the G5 playoff." And you lose nothing other than whiny 8 seeds instead of whiny nine seeds. 
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Re: If you could change one practicable thing about CFB ...
« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2019, 09:04:22 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 15, 2019, 06:30:11 PM
I think the jury is out on whether it's better to play a tough OOC slate or try and soft soap through it.

Nah, I think as long as you don't play any FCS teams, it's better to play a fairly soft OOC schedule.  Oregon was definitely penalized for playing and losing to Auburn.  Utah and Baylor would've made it in if they won their championship games.  

Baylor played Stephen F Austin, UT-San Antonio and Rice.

Utah played BYU, Northern Illinois, and Idaho State.

I feel like the best possible schedule is something like Ohio State had where all 3 teams had 8-10 wins, but none were really good enough to challenge you.  That way you'd still get a bump against a team like the two above, but you're not risking anything by actually playing a game you could lose.  Maybe you could swap one of them out for a UCLA, Oregon State, or Colorado type team that may win 4-6 games.

As a fan of course, I'd rather see the better OOC games, even though they aren't really incentivized right now.
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