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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #294 on: August 07, 2017, 08:56:47 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 06, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
Why in the holy hell can't I post pictures here, ever!?!?!?!?!?!

Yeah, I dunno. That is weird.

It's not exactly rocket surgery.
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #295 on: August 07, 2017, 09:07:56 AM »
Quote from: ELA on August 07, 2017, 08:48:40 AM
Miami is tough because they sit in the most fertile recruiting spot in the country.  Do they really have a national presence?  Do they even seek one out.  They have almost no fan base, and very little success now in 15 years despite whatever they did in the 80s, early 90s, then again under Butch.  Their history basically is totally tied to about 15 years of being great, which seems to hold very little capital today.


Washington has no business having the history they have.  They are a very underrated helmet IMO.


Part of what makes a helmet team is recognition.  That's where the term came from.  Instant recognition of a team from the helmet.  Miami got there in the 80's, although they are definitely fading.
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #296 on: August 07, 2017, 11:54:07 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 07, 2017, 08:56:47 AM
Yeah, I dunno. That is weird.

It's not exactly rocket surgery.

hey, this dirt farmer can do it..............
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #297 on: August 07, 2017, 12:10:00 PM »
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #298 on: August 07, 2017, 12:18:08 PM »
Miami
Washington
Iowa
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #299 on: August 07, 2017, 12:27:37 PM »
might be regional bias, but miami is still a big name down here.

miami
washington (underrated, imo)
iowa
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #300 on: August 07, 2017, 01:15:06 PM »
Quote from: Geolion91 on August 07, 2017, 09:07:56 AM
Part of what makes a helmet team is recognition.  That's where the term came from.  Instant recognition of a team from the helmet.  Miami got there in the 80's, although they are definitely fading.
Miami was there because they were winning, just like Oregon.  The ability to maintain that status when not winning is more important, and Miami suffers big time.  If anything IMO they are one of the smallest helmet schools in the P5.
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #301 on: August 07, 2017, 03:14:20 PM »
but, when a Texas or California recruit hears Miami or Iowa...


and I'm not sure Mark Richt would have been interested in coaching at Iowa City


probably because of the 5 MNCs in the recent past


I also think I know what program ESPN would rather talk about
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #302 on: August 07, 2017, 04:17:51 PM »
Ten years ago I would have had Miami well ahead, but now it's pretty close.


Still though


Miami
Washington
Iowa



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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #303 on: August 07, 2017, 04:51:54 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 07, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
but, when a Texas or California recruit hears Miami or Iowa...


and I'm not sure Mark Richt would have been interested in coaching at Iowa City


probably because of the 5 MNCs in the recent past


I also think I know what program ESPN would rather talk about
I'm not sure he would have been interested in coaching at Miami if it wasn't his alma mater.

I mean as of late they were hiring coaches away from Temple.

Plus there are other built in advantages at Miami that have nothing to do with helmet, namely more backyard talent than any program in the country.
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #304 on: August 07, 2017, 05:00:21 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 07, 2017, 03:14:20 PM

and I'm not sure Mark Richt would have been interested in coaching at Iowa City


You're probably right, but he does have Midwest ties.  Nebraska and Iowa don't offer beach front property, but they have fan support, and lots of it.  They're two of the most passionate fan bases in the land.

From what I gather he's a great guy and runs about as tight a ship as can be reasonably expected.  He might not ever get over the hump, but he's at the very least made multiple conference championship game appearances. 
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #305 on: August 07, 2017, 07:41:55 PM »
Quote from: ELA on August 07, 2017, 04:51:54 PM
I'm not sure he would have been interested in coaching at Miami if it wasn't his alma mater.

I mean as of late they were hiring coaches away from Temple.

Plus there are other built in advantages at Miami that have nothing to do with helmet, namely more backyard talent than any program in the country.

I've read some state that recruiting is part of helmet,  such as Notre Dame recruiting well even when down.

I'm a believer in coaches going where they can recruit, even over other nice variables such as fan base or alma matter
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #306 on: August 07, 2017, 07:51:08 PM »
Quote from: fezzador on August 07, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
You're probably right, but he does have Midwest ties.  Nebraska and Iowa don't offer beach front property, but they have fan support, and lots of it.  They're two of the most passionate fan bases in the land.

From what I gather he's a great guy and runs about as tight a ship as can be reasonably expected.  He might not ever get over the hump, but he's at the very least made multiple conference championship game appearances. 

Since he's been successful and was born in Omaha, Mark's name always comes up in Lincoln when discussing potential coaches.  Miami got Mark and UNL got Mike Riley.

I've also heard others mention the ability to lure top coaching talent as a part of helmet

Not sure what will happen in Lincoln when Riley leaves, but most of us think Brian will take over for Kirk when the time comes.
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Re: Helmet Team Ranking Exercise
« Reply #307 on: August 07, 2017, 07:56:52 PM »
Miami has a swagger that can't be matched, when they are good.

The recruiting base, the helmet decals, the mirrored visors, the camos, the crazy alumni, the big steamed helmet entry...

If Miami and Washington had the same record, I'd much rather draw The Canes in a bowl game.
(unless of course it's the Rose, then I'd take UDub, for the sake of tradition)
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