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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2024, 10:48:55 AM »
Can they keep Lanning from going to the NFL?

That's the big question for me.
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2024, 10:51:25 AM »
If we attempt to look at CFB in 2034, what might we see?  Who would be the apparent powers (aside from some team having one really good season)?

We could look back at 2014 and perhaps understand how poorly we'd do (other than chance).

2014 Final Football Polls | College Poll Archive

In the top 15 in 2014, we see Ohio State at uno, they have pretty much stayed put near that ranking.  We also see Mich State, TCU, FSU, ASU, Georgia Tech, Baylor, UCLA, ...  unranked included ND, LSU, A&M ...

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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2024, 11:01:30 AM »
things will probably change more in the next ten seasons than they did in the past ten seasons
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2024, 11:24:52 AM »
Know what I think? ?  We should stop worrying about getting 2 and 3 loss SEC teams into the playoff.  There can only be so many SEC teams, and everyone of us in the SEC accepted that it was the undisputed toughest conference in the CFB world, with the B1G running a close 2nd.  Full Stop.  

If SEC teams are unhappy that a 2 or 3 loss SEC team is not getting in versus a 1 or 0 loss MAC, Big 12, PAC, ACC, or whatever, they should just leave the SEC and go to one of those conferences.  I'm sure they would be glad to have them. 

When all the dust settles, it will either be an SEC or B1G team that wins it all, regardless of records, just like it has been the case 90% of the time for the last 15-20 years.  Clemson and FSU being the only exceptions, and before that USC, which is now a B1G team.  
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2024, 11:28:45 AM »
agreed

if you don't want to be in the SEC because it's too tough, follow ol Muleshoe
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2024, 12:10:20 PM »
This is probably an old fashioned way of thinking,  but if the ultimate goal is to win the national champiinship,  and you already have 3 losses in the regular season,  I would just say you had your chance and you blew it.  
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« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2024, 12:26:39 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 15, 2024, 12:10:20 PM
This is probably an old fashioned way of thinking,  but if the ultimate goal is to win the national champiinship,  and you already have 3 losses in the regular season,  I would just say you had your chance and you blew it. 
I agree with you but the other side of that coin is that whoever wins the NC in this 12-team CFP era is going to close with an insane gauntlet.  

An Ohio State site that I read had a comment about this that after Northwestern, if the Buckeyes are to win the NC they will close with at least six straight "jewelry and top-10" games:
  • current #5 (and they aren't dropping because they are off this week) Indiana
  • Rivalry "Gold Pants" game against Michigan
  • B1GCG for B1G Rings
  • CFB Quarter-Final almost certainly against a top-10 opponent.  
  • CFB Semi-Final almost certainly against a top-10 opponent.  
  • CFB CG almost certainly against a top-10 opponent.  

If the Buckeyes were to lose the B1GCG (after winning the three between now and then) then there would be an extra top-10 game in between #3 and #4.  

The tOSU site stated that this was a potential six-game stretch unlike anything any prior CFB team has EVER played.  

The thing is that while they are right, that really isn't specific to Ohio State.  Whoever wins the NC will finish with something like that.  
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2024, 02:19:33 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 15, 2024, 12:10:20 PM
This is probably an old fashioned way of thinking,  but if the ultimate goal is to win the national champiinship,  and you already have 3 losses in the regular season,  I would just say you had your chance and you blew it. 
I agree, broadly speaking, though we see 7-8+ loss teams win the basketball thing.  (I don't know the equivalence to a 3 loss CFB team, maybe it's more like 12 losses.)

We get a playoff champion.  
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #120 on: November 15, 2024, 02:20:22 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 15, 2024, 11:28:45 AM
agreed

if you don't want to be in the SEC because it's too tough, follow ol Muleshoe
He probably doesn't like being in the B1G. But he is.
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #121 on: November 15, 2024, 05:26:47 PM »
he might move to Washington St.
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #122 on: November 15, 2024, 06:10:11 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 15, 2024, 12:26:39 PM
I agree with you but the other side of that coin is that whoever wins the NC in this 12-team CFP era is going to close with an insane gauntlet. 

An Ohio State site that I read had a comment about this that after Northwestern, if the Buckeyes are to win the NC they will close with at least six straight "jewelry and top-10" games:
  • current #5 (and they aren't dropping because they are off this week) Indiana
  • Rivalry "Gold Pants" game against Michigan
  • B1GCG for B1G Rings
  • CFB Quarter-Final almost certainly against a top-10 opponent. 
  • CFB Semi-Final almost certainly against a top-10 opponent. 
  • CFB CG almost certainly against a top-10 opponent. 

If the Buckeyes were to lose the B1GCG (after winning the three between now and then) then there would be an extra top-10 game in between #3 and #4. 

The tOSU site stated that this was a potential six-game stretch unlike anything any prior CFB team has EVER played. 

The thing is that while they are right, that really isn't specific to Ohio State.  Whoever wins the NC will finish with something like that. 

Right.

No one, no matter how great they are, is likely to win the NC.  It becomes a near coin-flip.  Whoever happens to win by sheer statistical circumstance is the champion. 
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #123 on: November 15, 2024, 09:59:58 PM »
That doesn’t make sense. The better team always wins. Always. 
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2024, 10:54:19 PM »
6 consecutive coin flips yields some pretty small percentages.  Taught that to my class when discussing 7 swing state outcomes from the election.  

I had to explain why I told them neither candidate would win all 7, lol.  
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Re: First 12-Team Playoff Rankings Tues
« Reply #125 on: November 17, 2024, 08:21:45 AM »
What defines a successful season these days for YOUR team?

I know in basketball, for some, making the NCAA tournament is a good year, for some the Final Four is a nice season, for some making a bowl game is a decent year, beating your rivals ...

I was thinking about this last night, for UGA of course starting at #1 pretty much defines what success means, but that looks rather unlikely now.  They should make the playoffs though Tech is looking pretty decent.  That games is in Athens.  So, say they make the 12 and maybe win the first game and then bow out.  Good year?  I'd say pretty much, with some disappointment relative to expectations, which for fans seems too high in nearly every case.
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