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SFBadger96

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2142 on: October 07, 2024, 03:19:58 PM »
A couple of electrics that I saw this weekend:

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« Reply #2143 on: October 07, 2024, 03:25:36 PM »
I learned to drive (partially) on this 1950 GMC 150 (3/4 ton):


I liked the 1990s Dodge and its return to real front fenders. Was it perfect? No, but I think was good for truck styling. Just because a truck looks better doesn't mean it is a better truck. 
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2144 on: October 07, 2024, 11:38:15 PM »
Long lines evacuating the Florida coastline right now, folks will be sitting for hours.  This is not great for ICE, but it's a really bad use case for EV-- I hope folks have alternative transportation.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2145 on: October 08, 2024, 07:07:00 AM »
« Last Edit: October 08, 2024, 07:31:23 AM by Cincydawg »
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« Reply #2146 on: October 08, 2024, 08:44:01 AM »
Interesting.  And I believe an EV should be more efficient when cooling, rather than heating, since it doesn't have to offset engine heat.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2147 on: October 08, 2024, 08:48:53 AM »
link wouldn't work for me

new ICEs don't idle anymore - engine shutoff
should be more efficient for EVs to shutoff and turn on
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2148 on: October 08, 2024, 08:55:29 AM »
Most EVs use a heat pump for heating and cooling, so there would be only a small difference depending on T.  They also recommend just using the seat and steering wheel heat when it's cold.  Apparently that is more efficient than heating the cabin air, but probably isn't as comfortable.  I'd probably cycle on and off, much as I'd do in an ICE vehicle.
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« Reply #2149 on: October 08, 2024, 09:04:19 AM »
don't forget your jacket and cap

I'd guess an EV can run the heat pump a LONG time sitting still

as long as a gasser can idle on 10 gallons of fuel?
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« Reply #2150 on: October 08, 2024, 09:53:51 AM »
I guess you could just shut it off, but sitting in traffic in 90+ degree heat must suck without AC.  I wonder how much juice the EV's use running the AC not moving?  
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« Reply #2151 on: October 08, 2024, 09:57:06 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on October 08, 2024, 09:53:51 AM
I guess you could just shut it off, but sitting in traffic in 90+ degree heat must suck without AC.  I wonder how much juice the EV's use running the AC not moving? 
For this scenario, which is evacuation of the Florida coastline, I'm going to just assume that cars need to run for A/C purposes.

For an ICE, I expect you'll use more power to cool, since the vehicle's climate control must overcome the heat of the engine that is constantly running.  In an EV, this heat would be minimal comparatively, so it should consume less power to cool the car's interior to the same temperature.

Just my guess though, haven't seen any data.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2152 on: October 08, 2024, 10:02:02 AM »
I think they are roughly the same, with a LOT of variables that could make one or the other a bit better.  I've seen various studies on this, usually with cold weather, and they are "about the same".  Of course, it you get caught with a quarter tank or 20% remaining charge, you're probably in trouble.
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« Reply #2153 on: October 08, 2024, 10:32:55 AM »
yup, I'd guess more gassers run out of fuel than EVs run out of battery

just cause it's easier and quicker to pump gas and folks take it for granted

EV folks probably pay more attention
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2154 on: October 08, 2024, 10:35:26 AM »
One issue with an EV is that the effective range is between 20% and 80%.  I doubt many go under 20% ever, and charging above 80% slows down, usually.
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« Reply #2155 on: October 08, 2024, 10:36:27 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 08, 2024, 10:32:55 AM
yup, I'd guess more gassers run out of fuel than EVs run out of battery

just cause it's easier and quicker to pump gas and folks take it for granted

EV folks probably pay more attention
I'd expect most people evacuating for a hurricane take the time to fill up/charge up before leaving?  But perhaps not.
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