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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2072 on: August 27, 2024, 05:06:49 PM »
you don't want to see it

no one wants to see it

I saw one in the wild and made that Belushi face
I see them more often in the wild and I don't hate them. 

Still not a Mustang. 

I keep seeing the Cybertruck in the wild. Still hate it. Stupid, stupid vehicle. 

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« Reply #2073 on: August 27, 2024, 05:13:14 PM »
Yeah I don't think it's any better or worse than most other electric vehicles.

If they didn't call it a Mustang I'd be fine with it.

Cybertruck on the other hand is just so awful and it's not getting any better with more exposure to it.  It's bad bad bad.

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« Reply #2074 on: August 27, 2024, 05:15:07 PM »
If they didn't call it a Mustang I'd be fine with it.


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« Reply #2075 on: August 27, 2024, 06:00:43 PM »
Longtime Tesla investor Ross Gerber has sold about half his stake in the electric car company, but still can't his actual Tesla.

Gerber recently told BI that the used-car market is so overrun with old Teslas that he's failed at flipping his old model at what he deems a fair value.

He's right: A used Tesla certainly isn't worth as much as it was a few years ago.

In mid-2022, as demand for Tesla EVs far outweighed what Elon Musk's company could supply, a used Model Y could go for as much as $70,000, according to data from Recurrent, which tracks secondhand EV prices.
That same car today is worth less than $40,000 on the used market, the firm says.

Used EVs are becoming more affordable as more supply hits the market, and Tesla, as an early mover in the segment, is most impacted by these falling resale prices.

According to industry data, Teslas are the most commonly found EVs on the used market, accounting for roughly 42% of the market. Hertz's move to dump 30,000 Teslas from its fleet earlier this year hastened the decline in used-market values.


This influx in supply puts pressure on resale values and requires owners looking to offload their vehicles to lower their listing prices to attract buyers, which is why Gerber held on to his Tesla.

Musk's EV price war in the new car market isn't helping the matter. Tesla slashed prices by about $15,000 last year and has continued to lower them throughout this year.

When factoring in a $7,500 federal tax credit, an aspiring Tesla owner can get a brand new rear-wheel drive Model 3 for around $31,490. That's compared to an average used price of $29,303 for a used 2018 Model 3, according to Recurrent.


The falling resale values come at the same time Tesla's share in the new EV market fell below 50% for the first time in the second quarter, according to Cox Automotive.
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« Reply #2076 on: August 27, 2024, 06:19:45 PM »
Yeah I don't think it's any better or worse than most other electric vehicles.

If they didn't call it a Mustang I'd be fine with it.

Cybertruck on the other hand is just so awful and it's not getting any better with more exposure to it.  It's bad bad bad.
I agree, the EV "'stang" looks OK to me, not great.

I was at the Hyundai dealer today and looked at some of the Ioinics and think they looked pretty slick.

The did some kind of software update on mine, something about the battery, it was explained very well.  I'd like to know more about the drivetrain in the thing but I can't find any details anywhere.

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« Reply #2077 on: August 27, 2024, 06:52:56 PM »
My internal-combustion engine had a front motor mount give way and the transmission mount is going.  Glad I took it in due to vibrations felt through the gas pedal.

Don't want something major falling out on the road.  Already did that with my Jeep (front driveshaft).
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« Reply #2078 on: August 28, 2024, 07:42:03 AM »
My internal-combustion engine had a front motor mount give way and the transmission mount is going.  Glad I took it in due to vibrations felt through the gas pedal.

Don't want something major falling out on the road.  Already did that with my Jeep (front driveshaft).
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« Reply #2079 on: August 28, 2024, 08:59:13 AM »


This suggests to me they aren't selling well.

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« Reply #2080 on: August 28, 2024, 09:01:49 AM »
We were at he Hyundai dealer yesterday for an oil change (which took way too long).  My wife wanted to go with me, and at a point we walked around their lot.  They had cars everywhere, it was amazing how much inventory they had.  Nearly all of it was SUVs of some sort of course.  They have some EVs too, they look pretty decent, to me, I'm still not interested in one.  A lot of the SUVs were hybrids.  

I'm seeing more TV ads for EVs also, I'd guess you are as well.  I know they are selling in greater numbers each year, but the car makers have apparently "misoverestimated" demand.

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« Reply #2081 on: August 28, 2024, 09:25:05 AM »


This suggests to me they aren't selling well.
at that price I'm not surprised
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« Reply #2082 on: August 28, 2024, 09:29:06 AM »
When they first announced that thing, I wasn't certain there was a much of a market for a Bro'd out monster truck offroading EV.

I think I might have been right.

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« Reply #2083 on: August 28, 2024, 09:30:48 AM »
I don't know why GM really makes these "specialty" vehicles at times, "halo"  cars I guess.  I "like" the Caddy CT5V BW, great car etc., but I doubt many who buy the CT5 regular car are influenced by its existence.


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« Reply #2084 on: August 28, 2024, 09:31:29 AM »
hah, the 2 wheel drive version is hardly available. Well, maybe in Texas (No Snow)

Unless you order it.  But not for lease.

So, you're really gonna pay nearly $1,000/month
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« Reply #2085 on: August 28, 2024, 09:33:43 AM »
hah, the 2 wheel drive version is hardly available. Well, maybe in Texas (No Snow)

Unless you order it.  But not for lease.

So, you're really gonna pay nearly $1,000/month
Nobody in Texas gets a 2WD truck even if they'll never use the 4WD.  Maybe some soccer moms in Suburbans and Expeditions but I don't think that's the target demo for this thing.

 

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