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« Reply #2044 on: August 20, 2024, 06:08:28 PM »
haven't noticed the EV chargers at my golf course

that would be about a 4 hr charge plus the 19th hole
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« Reply #2045 on: August 21, 2024, 06:35:05 AM »
These away from home chargers will have to be a bit pricey for obvious reasons, exceptions being when they are used to get you to park there and enjoy whatever is "inside".  Power runs about 16 cents per kWhr, then you have the cost of the charger itself, and billing, and maintenance, and insurance, the minor cost of land. and then profit margin.  I think Tesla had a "zero cost" model on charging as an incentive to buy their car, which was fairly smart at that time.

Let's imagine their 25 cents is "zero profit", or close to it.  For folks providing these at profit, they need a markup of course.  That could be 20 cents or so, just guessing, to provide a decent ROI.  Maybe "Kroger" kicks in a few bucks, at least to start?  I can see some "Krogers" kicking in a lot of bucks, to start, and then after a year of marketing that stops.  So, it goes from "free" to use to 40 cents or more.

My neighbor was under the impression they were all free, somehow, when I mentioned they cost about as much as gas.  He didn't know.  We don't drive enough in a year to really matter much at all, maybe 7K miles, probably about 200 gallons, or $650 or so.  That's about what my car insurance costs.  So, my own max savings on gas is $650.

My wife chatted with a lady in the garage the other day because the lady had a new Tesla, and she was saying she had been spending $5,000 a MONTH on gas (for her Porsche).  She may be in real estate.  She loved not having to buy gas but didn't note the cost of charging.  She had a Panamera before.  It looked nice.

The lady felt she need to remark how she didn't like Elon at all.  I'm pretty sure nearly everyone in the building is "liberal", not that I care either way.

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« Reply #2046 on: August 21, 2024, 08:03:27 AM »
$5K a month is a LOT of driving

even with premium in a Porsche

does she mostly sell real estate in North Dakota? 
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« Reply #2047 on: August 21, 2024, 08:20:21 AM »
I dunno, she might have exaggerated.  She then claimed it fell to $61 a month with the Tesla, which strikes me as unlikely.

It would be about 1250 gallons of premium and over 20,000 miles, which is clearly not accurate.

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« Reply #2048 on: August 21, 2024, 08:26:58 AM »
I dunno, she might have exaggerated.  She then claimed it fell to $61 a month with the Tesla, which strikes me as unlikely.

It would be about 1250 gallons of premium and over 20,000 miles, which is clearly not accurate.
I was doing that math, and you would just be burning through expensive cars so fast.

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« Reply #2049 on: August 21, 2024, 08:37:43 AM »
some women folk exaggerate quite a bit

most of them that do, really seem to dislike Trump exaggerating
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« Reply #2050 on: August 21, 2024, 08:39:41 AM »
She might have meant per year, not per month.  I heard the latter.

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« Reply #2051 on: August 21, 2024, 08:48:09 AM »
I'd guess she doesn't spend that much in a year
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« Reply #2052 on: August 21, 2024, 09:00:32 AM »
Ford delays new EV plant, cancels electric three-row SUV (cnbc.com)

DETROIT – Ford Motor is delaying production of a new plant in Tennessee to produce a next-generation all-electric pickup truck and canceling plans for a three-row electric SUV, the company said Wednesday.
Instead, Ford said it will prioritize the development of hybrid models, as well as electric commercial vehicles such as a new electric commercial van in 2026, followed by two EV pickup trucks in 2027.

The pickups are expected to be a full-size truck, which will be produced at the Tennessee plant that’s currently under construction in 2027, and a new midsize pickup.



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« Reply #2053 on: August 21, 2024, 09:00:51 AM »
I am impressed that Toyota and Honda basically were right.

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« Reply #2054 on: August 21, 2024, 09:02:55 AM »
I'm not surprised, they've led the "energy economy" segment for decades.


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« Reply #2055 on: August 21, 2024, 09:16:18 AM »
Ford delays new EV plant, cancels electric three-row SUV (cnbc.com)

DETROIT – Ford Motor is delaying production of a new plant in Tennessee to produce a next-generation all-electric pickup truck and canceling plans for a three-row electric SUV, the company said Wednesday.
Instead, Ford said it will prioritize the development of hybrid models, as well as electric commercial vehicles such as a new electric commercial van in 2026, followed by two EV pickup trucks in 2027.

The pickups are expected to be a full-size truck, which will be produced at the Tennessee plant that’s currently under construction in 2027, and a new midsize pickup.



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« Reply #2056 on: August 21, 2024, 09:16:58 AM »
I dunno, she might have exaggerated.  She then claimed it fell to $61 a month with the Tesla, which strikes me as unlikely.

It would be about 1250 gallons of premium and over 20,000 miles, which is clearly not accurate.
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« Reply #2057 on: August 21, 2024, 09:34:48 AM »
She's a nice lady, I see her in the gym sometimes.  She's a bit hefty but does work out, and I could have misheard her.  Her Panamera had Dealer plates on it all the time.

I'm not sure but she may be the sister of Elijah Holyfield, son of Evander.

 

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