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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2226 on: November 10, 2024, 12:21:58 PM »
I'm usually in a hurry

when the brother lived in Round Rock (900+ miles)
I'd stop once or twice
usually in OKC - cheapest gas

twice with the truck - range
didn't usually sit down to eat
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2227 on: November 15, 2024, 10:28:42 AM »
Does an EV Work as Well in Cold Weather?

Simple answer is no, but the drop off might not be as severe as some claim.

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« Reply #2228 on: November 15, 2024, 10:32:24 AM »
things are usually exaggerated depending what side you're standing on
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2229 on: November 17, 2024, 12:06:07 PM »
Waymo’s driverless taxis are now open to the public in Los Angeles. Starting Tuesday, anyone with the Waymo One app can hail a fully autonomous ride in specific parts of the city. Previously, only riders on a waitlist could use the service. While LA joins San Francisco and Phoenix as Waymo cities, the service area in LA is smaller, covering areas from Playa Vista and Marina del Rey up to Santa Monica and West Hollywood, with Little Tokyo as the eastern edge.


We parked at Kroger the other day next to three of these, all Jaguars, charging up.  A driver was there waiting and we chatted a bit.  In the time we shopped, his car went from 57% to 77%, maybe 20 minutes.  My wife asked him if they could see red lights, and he said yes, they have drivers here now, just tooling around I guess checking them out.  I guess they will go "live" (sort of) in a year or so.

I think this is a "coming thing", and in five years perhaps all taxis will be autonomous in cities (???).  Is this a better way to handle mass transit in effect?

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2230 on: November 20, 2024, 03:37:57 PM »
Trump's cut to Biden's EV tax credit, backed by Musk, may impact auto industry, experts say | Fox News
Trump's cut to Biden's EV tax credit, backed by Musk, may impact auto industry, experts say | Fox News

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« Reply #2231 on: November 20, 2024, 03:42:16 PM »
I'm ok with cutting that EV tax credit
It didn't seem to be working as well as planned
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« Reply #2232 on: November 20, 2024, 03:43:52 PM »
Waymo’s driverless taxis are now open to the public in Los Angeles. Starting Tuesday, anyone with the Waymo One app can hail a fully autonomous ride in specific parts of the city. Previously, only riders on a waitlist could use the service. While LA joins San Francisco and Phoenix as Waymo cities, the service area in LA is smaller, covering areas from Playa Vista and Marina del Rey up to Santa Monica and West Hollywood, with Little Tokyo as the eastern edge.


We parked at Kroger the other day next to three of these, all Jaguars, charging up.  A driver was there waiting and we chatted a bit.  In the time we shopped, his car went from 57% to 77%, maybe 20 minutes.  My wife asked him if they could see red lights, and he said yes, they have drivers here now, just tooling around I guess checking them out.  I guess they will go "live" (sort of) in a year or so.

I think this is a "coming thing", and in five years perhaps all taxis will be autonomous in cities (???).  Is this a better way to handle mass transit in effect?
I have several friends who routinely rely on Waymo in SF--and I see them all over the place on my commute (mostly as a bicyclist). They can get confused more easily than a human driver, but they drive conservatively and are quite effective as people movers. 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2233 on: November 20, 2024, 03:47:23 PM »
I routinely see buses here nearly empty.  I wonder if Waymo isn't a better option.  Maybe it's too pricey.

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« Reply #2234 on: November 20, 2024, 04:00:13 PM »
One thing I've wondered is whether it's a gateway for some people. I know that our bus service here (where I live) is better than many people realize. For now, riding the bus in the U.S. is largely considered something for the poor. In countries where the gas prices are higher, the cities are denser, and the barrier to entry for drivers' licenses is higher, using the bus is common for most socio-economic strata. 

I wonder if getting used to the idea of not driving oneself will help people realize that taking the bus (train, or other) is a better option than they realized--particularly if they can rely on a driverless car when things go awry (i.e. bus is really late, broken down, etc.). For instance, I know some people who have relied on Lyft/Uber have realized that the bus, while less convenient, is so much cheaper, that it's worth using instead.

I have no idea, but it's a thought that has occurred to me.

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« Reply #2235 on: November 20, 2024, 04:04:12 PM »
I had planned when we moved here to get on the bus and ride the entire circuit to see how it was and where it went.  I can look at the route on line of course, but seeing it firsthand is probably some different.  There are several bus lines that come near us, they of course will concentrate around a MARTA station.  There is one that goes out to the baseball park I mean to try, and never had, traffic out there is atrocious, and that county didn't buy into the subway system.

MARTA rail was intended to be much more extensive, but the funds for that simply aren't there.  There are funds to build hyper expensive toll lanes on freeways though.

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« Reply #2236 on: November 20, 2024, 04:20:44 PM »
a vehicle is a considerable expense, but folks like the freedom and convenience

I might try to get by w/o a vehicle if I lived in a condo in the center of a city like Atlanta/Austin
and was no longer golfing
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« Reply #2237 on: November 20, 2024, 04:25:04 PM »
We went from 2 to 1 when we moved here.  That of course saves a lot of money.  The times we've needed another car are about zero.  And if one of us was out and the other really needed to get somewhere, we'd use Lyft.  

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« Reply #2238 on: November 20, 2024, 04:33:02 PM »
a vehicle is a considerable expense, but folks like the freedom and convenience

I might try to get by w/o a vehicle if I lived in a condo in the center of a city like Atlanta/Austin
and was no longer golfing
There are a couple of municipal golf courses in/near downtown Austin.  Cheap uber ride, or a rigorous walk if you don't mind schlepping your clubs 20-30 blocks.

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« Reply #2239 on: November 20, 2024, 04:41:28 PM »
As a San Francisco suburbanite, it does strike me every time I visit Wisconsin (and many other places), that what would work well for public transportation in my suburb, would not work at all in Waukesha County (Milwaukee suburbs and exurbs). One reason people should get out and see other parts of the country.

On the other hand, Madison has a great public transit system (that could continue to get better).

 

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