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I've never been robbed at gunpoint, but that doesn't mean I'm going to Chicago to rock and roll all night.

Never again.

Bear in mind that this is a false analogy. The correct analogy would be "that doesn't mean I'm going to Illinois to rock and roll all night."

Illinois is a big place. The bulk of the state is rural where the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. The bulk of the Chicago metropolitan area is suburban, and in most of it the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. Heck, wide swaths inside Chicago city limits are nice enough that the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. 

There are parts of Illinois, where if I were walking around late at night, the risk of me being robbed at gunpoint (or worse) is very high. 

That doesn't mean you write off an entire state because there are some bad areas. I'll tell you that the risk of me being robbed at gunpoint in Mission Viejo, or hell most of Orange County, is very low. That might not be true if I were in Oakland.

Shithole California has 40%+ higher robbery rate per 100,000 people than Florida by the way... https://www.statista.com/statistics/232564/robbery-rate-in-the-us-by-state/

And yet, Florida has a 20% higher murder rate. Seems like a shithole I should really avoid. 

Bear in mind that this is a false analogy. The correct analogy would be "that doesn't mean I'm going to Illinois to rock and roll all night."

Illinois is a big place. The bulk of the state is rural where the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. The bulk of the Chicago metropolitan area is suburban, and in most of it the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. Heck, wide swaths inside Chicago city limits are nice enough that the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low.

There are parts of Illinois, where if I were walking around late at night, the risk of me being robbed at gunpoint (or worse) is very high.

That doesn't mean you write off an entire state because there are some bad areas. I'll tell you that the risk of me being robbed at gunpoint in Mission Viejo, or hell most of Orange County, is very low. That might not be true if I were in Oakland.

Oakland is like 25 percent to 33 percent highly safe too. Shoot, I grew up pretty close to there. I solve the problem by not walking around the sketchy parts. Fortunately, there wasn't much I had to do in those parts anyway. 

I mean, I've been told 1 in 10 Americans, including my family and most of my friend from back home should be turned out as American citizens on this thread. And for reasons that mostly remain unclear. If we're mad at the "brainless strawman" of asking if your friends were actually robbed at gunpoint, we're building quite a mountain of brainlessness here.

Listen. I lived in Ca for 20 or so years. I have a family in the state, lots of friends. I'm pretty sure I don't know anyone who has been robbed at gunpoint. Your retired friends and I must run in different circles, I guess.

Well I am glad that you could afford to live in some safe little bubble with low crime rates. That's awesome. 

I don't give a crap about Californians like you though, my empathy is solely for those law abiding citizens who have to live among their criminal element, while people like you wag your finger at them from atop your ivory towers in your gated communities and call them "Xenophobes" or whatever buzz word is en vogues among the White liberal elite these days. 

Bear in mind that this is a false analogy. The correct analogy would be "that doesn't mean I'm going to Illinois to rock and roll all night."

Illinois is a big place. The bulk of the state is rural where the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. The bulk of the Chicago metropolitan area is suburban, and in most of it the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low. Heck, wide swaths inside Chicago city limits are nice enough that the risk of being robbed at gunpoint is low.

There are parts of Illinois, where if I were walking around late at night, the risk of me being robbed at gunpoint (or worse) is very high.

That doesn't mean you write off an entire state because there are some bad areas. I'll tell you that the risk of me being robbed at gunpoint in Mission Viejo, or hell most of Orange County, is very low. That might not be true if I were in Oakland.

The problem is "they" are now brazen/enabled enough to come out to the suburbs and commit crimes. I saw it starting.

Nothing used to happen downtown either. And then it did.

Out of curiosity, what city/state was this in?

Good ole columbus ohio. About a block south of Worthington, which is an affluent suburb. 

It wasn't in one of the "bad parts" per se. But there was a small patch of section 8 housing nearby. 

Nothing like getting mugged by a couple of fine young democrats that you already subsidize with your tax dollars.