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Topic: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (12-2) vs. #8 USC (11-3) Post Game

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TyphonInc

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Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (12-2) vs. #8 USC (11-3) Post Game
« on: December 04, 2017, 08:06:20 AM »
Wow. This should be an awesome game. I'm really excited for it. (Little disappointed in not making the playoff, but 2 losses is 2 losses, and a 1 loss was out there and ranked higher)

Again, my goals every season for OSU:
1) Beat *ichigan - Check
2) Win The Big Ten - Check
3) Play in the Rose bowl - well as close as we could get this year. It's Big Champ vs. Pac champ, they just moved the location to practically a neutral site. Cotton is like a Rose isn't it?


This very well could be the battle of whose motivated game; OSU was campaigning for a bigger prize and didn't get it. USC's NFL talent QB could already check out and looks towards his Sunday stock, in this consolation bowl.
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Re: #5 Ohio State (B1G Champ, 11-2) vs. #8 USC (Pac Champ, 11-2)
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 10:08:17 AM »


USC leads the all time series 13-9-1, including 4-3 in Bowl games; all of which have been the Rose Bowl. 

USC is riding a seven game winning streak, that dates back to the 1975 Rose Bowl. 


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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 03:03:00 PM »
Very quiet thread.
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 03:48:07 PM »
stop the streak!
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 03:50:57 PM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on December 06, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
Very quiet thread.
OSU fans haven't moved on from the CFP selection yet
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 04:24:33 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 06, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
OSU fans haven't moved on from the CFP selection yet
Yeah, we haven't.  
I actually was looking for this thread earlier and couldn't find it.  
This series bothers me so I really hope that we can get back in the win column.  The Bucks led this series 9-7-1 before I was born but are a dreadful 0-6 in my lifetime.  There are some really tough losses within the seven game losing streak:
  • 1974 season, 1975 Rosebowl:  USC won 18-17.  The Buckeyes suffered a single loss that year, at MSU and were 10-1 and #3 heading into the RoseBowl.  #1 Oklahoma was ineligible due to one of their periodic run-ins with the NCAA.  #2 Bama lost to #9 Notre Dame (who had just gotten demolished by USC).  #4 Michigan got no bowl due to the BigTen's RoseBowl only policy.  USC was #5.  A win would likely have given the Buckeyes at least part of an NC.  
  • 1979 season, 1980 Rosebowl:  USC won 17-16.  The Buckeyes were undefeated and #1 heading into the bowls.  #2 Bama beat #6 Arkansas in the SugarBowl.  USC was #3.  #4 FSU lost to #5 Oklahoma in OrangeBowl.  Bama and FSU were also undefeated while #3 USC had a tie with Stanford, #5 OU had lost to Texas, and #6 Arkansas had lost to Houston.  This one cost Ohio State an NC.  
  • 1984 season, 1985 RoseBowl:  USC won 20-17.  This loss was pretty much preordained because it came in the midst of Earle Bruce's run of six straight 9-3 seasons and the Buckeyes came in 9-2.  
  • 1989 season in SoCal:  USC won 42-3.  Cooper's second season and just not a good time to travel to the West Coast to take on a very good team.  
  • 1990 season in Columbus:  USC won 35-26.  1990 was not a good year for Ohio State but it wasn't very good for USC either and the Buckeyes really should have won this game.  
  • 2008 season in SoCal:  USC won 35-3.  This was a major blow to Ohio State's national reputation following on the heels of back-to-back bad BCSCG losses to SEC teams.  
  • 2009 season in Columbus:  USC won 18-15.  There really is no explanation for this loss.  The Trojans lost that year to 5-7 Washington, 10-3 Oregon (whom Ohio State beat in the RoseBowl), 8-5 Stanford, and 8-5 Arizona.  
Seven straight losses with four of them being by a FG or less.  Ugh.  

The Buckeye's nine wins were by:
  • 33
  • 21 twice
  • 20 twice
  • 17
  • 16
  • 13
  • 11
USC's 13 wins were by:
  • 39
  • 32 twice
  • 29
  • 25
  • 17
  • 9
  • 7
  • 3 twice
  • 1 three times
Granted, USC does have some big wins but it just sucks for the Buckeyes to be 0-6 in games decided by a TD or less.  If the Buckeyes were a mere 2-4 in the close ones the series would be tied and the Buckeyes would likely have another NC or two.  
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 07:49:25 PM »
From an OZone article about all of Ohio State's Rose Bowl non-appearances:

"2017: The Rose Bowl is a playoff game, and the Big Ten champion Buckeyes were left sitting on the curb outside because they’re not on the bouncer’s list.
Don’t worry, though. The sunset over the Wal-Mart next to Jerry World is supposedly just as majestic as the one over the San Gabriel Mountains."
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 07:56:22 PM »
I've talked with a lot of people who went to the Badger game down there last year, against WMU.

The reviews were not positive as to the area, but hey, it's OSU/USC.

You gotta like that.
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 12:50:37 AM »
Yeah stadium setting-wise Jerry's World pales in comparison to the Rose Bowl. But travelling Buckeyes shouldn't find a shortage of nice places to stay/things to do as long as they stay in Dallas or Ft Worth. Don't bother with Arlington other than the game itself.
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 07:00:18 AM »
Yeah, it's not the playoffs, and it's not the Rose Bowl, and so what it is?  I dunno, but interesting it is not.
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 07:37:37 AM »
Quote from: DevilFroggy on December 07, 2017, 12:50:37 AM
Yeah stadium setting-wise Jerry's World pales in comparison to the Rose Bowl. But travelling Buckeyes shouldn't find a shortage of nice places to stay/things to do as long as they stay in Dallas or Ft Worth. Don't bother with Arlington other than the game itself.
So, this is not Rose Bowl-East. It's more like Glendale-East?
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 07:39:30 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 07, 2017, 07:37:37 AM
So, this is not Rose Bowl-East. It's more like Glendale-East?
Ha! Exactly.
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 09:27:08 AM »
Who was it that delivered that devastating hit on OJ Simpson in the 69 Rose Bowl?
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Re: Cotton Bowl: #5 Ohio State (11-2) vs. #8 USC (11-2)
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2017, 09:34:31 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 06, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
  • 1979 season, 1980 Rosebowl:  USC won 17-16.  The Buckeyes were undefeated and #1 heading into the bowls.  #2 Bama beat #6 Arkansas in the SugarBowl.  USC was #3.  #4 FSU lost to #5 Oklahoma in OrangeBowl.  Bama and FSU were also undefeated while #3 USC had a tie with Stanford, #5 OU had lost to Texas, and #6 Arkansas had lost to Houston.  This one cost Ohio State an NC.  


I was at this game and I am still convinced that Charles White did not cross the goal line on that last TD. 
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