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OrangeAfroMan

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College football stats
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:39:03 PM »
I may just be used to toiling with baseball stats or something, but why does the historical college football stat record suck???  You can't find anything good or deep going back very far.  

It's annoying.  Just a rant.  
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 07:40:56 PM »
probably because sports fans had baseball
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 10:44:28 PM »
Getting tackles numbers is a joke, pre-2003.  21st century!!!  Forget about sacks going back.  Want to find out which year a school's defense was the best at stopping the run?  NOPE!  
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 12:08:08 AM »
We have better baseball records than weather records in this country.  
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 06:35:18 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on April 20, 2018, 12:08:08 AM
We have better baseball records than weather records in this country.  
Heh.  Time to call The Bobs.
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 10:27:02 AM »
baseball and boxing were big!
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 12:39:01 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 20, 2018, 06:35:18 AM
Heh.  Time to call The Bobs.
We've been trying. We got him a computer and server, and a new website. It's all ready for when he decides to get it moving. Hopefully that will happen.
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 12:58:56 PM »
Even his stuff was all W/L info though right?

As far as player, and even team, stats, it just ain't out there.  It has to be somewhere, team media guides at least show school records, but the task of compiling it all at this point is overwhelming.
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 01:09:50 PM »
Sean Foreman's sites (sports-reference.com) have been chiseling away at this for awhile.  Of course he founded the greatest of all sports website,  baseball-reference.com,  but his college football version has gotten pretty good

there's some good statistical data, even at a player level, but it is far from complete.  the people behind the scenes are responsive too, you can reach out to them.
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2018, 01:13:48 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on April 20, 2018, 01:09:50 PM
Sean Foreman's sites (sports-reference.com) have been chiseling away at this for awhile.  Of course he founded the greatest of all sports website,  baseball-reference.com,  but his college football version has gotten pretty good

there's some good statistical data, even at a player level, but it is far from complete.  the people behind the scenes are responsive too, you can reach out to them.

That's what I rely on.  You're right, it's getting better.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2018, 03:02:27 PM »
Yeah, I have both baseballreference and collegefootballreference bookmarked.  Those baseball cats really worked together - project scoresheet, among many many others.  I can basically find any obscure stat I want in baseball going back to 1913.

For college football, the data drops way off a cliff before 2005.  2005!!!!!!  Hell, if they want to give me $50,000/year to toil and compile and flesh out their site, I'd do it in a heartbeat.  

As it is, Arizona teachers have scheduled a walkout next Thursday.  Striking in a right-to-work state - fun!!!!
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2018, 03:26:07 PM »
Every play by play of a game back to 1973, I think there are a few Braves games w incomplete pbp data.

I can get most  guys batting and pitching splits before 1920.  The Rbi data is a little murky pre 1920.

Re cfb , it's disappointing.  Schools would need to cooperate and lets face it, some probably don't have the data to share.  A handful of schools have fans that have taken matter into their own hands.  Huskermax .com probably is the best resource for a single team, outside a schools actual own records. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2018, 09:42:52 PM »
yeah, huskermax is a turn-on.  
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Re: College football stats
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2018, 01:56:58 PM »
Speaking of stats,  apparently some folks at the Omaha World Herald are getting their arms around the entire conference's 'scanned ticket' numbers, which of course tell the real story regarding attendance.   They will report their findings at some point in the near future.

Out of this, Sam McKewon of the OWH had a quick take on a specific instance.  I see he is in agreement with me, in that this was Nebraska's lowest moment since joining the B1G,  the 2015 Nebraska at Purdue game.   I'm more focused on the humiliating 55-45 defeat to Purdue (its lone FBS level win that season).    Announced crowd was 31,351,  the scanned ticket attendance was 15,522, apparently the lowest scanned count during whatever period is being examined.  

I was in Arizona for a wedding during this weekend but my brother and Dad went to this game,  they both said (via text) during the 1st quarter that it was the most depressing environment that they had ever seen for a I-A game and this was before they watched Purdue abuse the Huskers.  Of course it was drizzly and low 40s.

I'll be interested in seeing these numbers across the league.  Sam's written about Nebraka's before.  We all know they pad them, but not by how much.
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