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Mdot21

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1176 on: December 12, 2021, 11:11:54 AM »
Ryan Day to the Chicago Bears rumors/innuendo starting. Doubt anything comes of it. In the off-chance it did, Fickell slides right in there at takes over. So to recap...even if Ohio State somehow lost their excellent young coach, they'd just replace him with maybe the hottest up-and-coming G5 coach who has his team in the playoff. Must be nice to always be able to pull top notch coaches. Will these guys ever just hire an f'ing RichRod or Hoke just once....

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/trace-armstrong-discussed-top-management-position-with-bears-ohio-states-ryan-day-part-of-possible-package/?s=04&fbclid=IwAR10TRh5d0AhPXoNt4mekkVmL74hqrQfhfpRMferObgvCXLHWiEgH-E7q0s

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1177 on: December 12, 2021, 11:14:09 AM »
Ryan Day to the Chicago Bears rumors/innuendo starting. Doubt anything comes of it. In the off-chance it did, Fickell slides right in there at takes over. So to recap...even if Ohio State somehow lost their excellent young coach, they'd just replace him with maybe the hottest up-and-coming G5 coach who has his team in the playoff. Must be nice to always be able to pull top notch coaches. Will these guys ever just hire an f'ing RichRod or Hoke just once....

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/trace-armstrong-discussed-top-management-position-with-bears-ohio-states-ryan-day-part-of-possible-package/?s=04&fbclid=IwAR10TRh5d0AhPXoNt4mekkVmL74hqrQfhfpRMferObgvCXLHWiEgH-E7q0s
Ehh, you only know when you know. 

Rich Rod was a super hot candidate, and Michigan fans told us for several years that old Hoke was what the doctor ordered. They'll never land a guy that looks bad. 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1178 on: December 12, 2021, 11:55:56 AM »
Don't get me started
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« Reply #1179 on: December 12, 2021, 12:01:01 PM »
don't get him started ;)
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« Reply #1180 on: December 12, 2021, 12:05:36 PM »
Ehh, you only know when you know.

Rich Rod was a super hot candidate, and Michigan fans told us for several years that old Hoke was what the doctor ordered. They'll never land a guy that looks bad.
It could happen on a year like this one, where there were like half a dozen job openings among the helmets and near helmets. If OSU had to settle for their third or fourth choice HC, it would "look bad." 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1181 on: December 12, 2021, 12:54:38 PM »
Ryan Day to the Chicago Bears rumors/innuendo starting. Doubt anything comes of it. In the off-chance it did, Fickell slides right in there at takes over. So to recap...even if Ohio State somehow lost their excellent young coach, they'd just replace him with maybe the hottest up-and-coming G5 coach who has his team in the playoff. Must be nice to always be able to pull top notch coaches. Will these guys ever just hire an f'ing RichRod or Hoke just once....

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/trace-armstrong-discussed-top-management-position-with-bears-ohio-states-ryan-day-part-of-possible-package/?s=04&fbclid=IwAR10TRh5d0AhPXoNt4mekkVmL74hqrQfhfpRMferObgvCXLHWiEgH-E7q0s
To be honest, I don't think we know what Ryan Day is at this point. 

  • Clearly he's a great offensive mind, and he hasn't been the type of coach to squander the talent he has. But he's only three years into his tenure as a head coach, with one of them being the weird COVID year of 2020. 
  • This year, he lost two games by having a defense that looked completely and totally lost on defense against Oregon, and by letting the Wolverines just run the ball straight down their throats all game. 
  • Head coaches inheriting powerhouse programs but who don't measure up often take 3-4 years for the cracks to show. In the first year or two, the upperclassmen who were brought up in the previous coach's culture can sustain it. When you get to years 3-4, then you have players dominating the starting lineup who were brought up in the new coach's culture. 

They've got all the talent in the world and an offensive-minded coach who can put up points, so they've looked fine... But did they lose the two games they lost--both mainly due to defensive issues--because Day brought in the wrong DC? Can he fix it? Is the defensive recruiting as successful as it needs to be, or is he the type of coach that's amassing talent on the offensive side of the ball and leaving the defensive recruiting to guys who maybe aren't good enough?

I don't know the answer to these questions... And if he leaves for the Bears, we never will. If he stays... Maybe we find out he's in over his head. 


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1182 on: December 12, 2021, 01:44:51 PM »
Actually there is nothing to it.  Pure speculation- makes for exciting times on UM fan boards/ they are delusional in the truest sense. 

Also- I DO know what we have in Ryan Day.  It is very clear. 

A coach who recruits at the highest level.  A head coach who has lost exactly one conference game-in 3 seasons- to a VERY good team, on the road in the snow.

A coach who lost to Clemson once, and followed up that only loss by BURYING them the following year.

A coach who hired his choice of DCs- a guy few had heard of- a guy named Jeff Hafley. That DC instantly moved OSU to a top 10 defense in his first and only season. Unfortunately that guy got blocked away to be a head coach and a power five conference.

He then took a longtime OSU recruiting and DB coaching wiz- out from the NFL.  He gave that guy less than one season to show what he could do as DC- and when it was apparent things weren’t going well- stripped him of his DC duties in mid season. Then went out as soon as the season was over went and hired a highly in demand proven commodity (Knowles) to run the defense next year.

He is fantastic in front of the media: measured, articulate, honest, professional, and above all classy. He and his wife give freely of their time and money, for a cause of those in need ( mental illness)

He has never once been associated with anything remotely unethical: no drunk driving, questionable recruiting, favoritism, nothing.

In reality he has owned Michigan. Remember- he was responsible for the offense that easily beat them 3 out of 4 years.  Twice in their stadium. He ran them off the field.  This year, Michigan did that.

But this was 2nd youngest team in FBS, and they produced the best offense in CFB, a 10-2 record, a Heisman caliber QB from a totally inexperienced 19 year old who had never even thrown a pass or played in front of a crowd before,and were in the conversation for the playoff until the end of the season.

There are some good coaches in the Big these days- but I wouldn’t even lightly consider trading him for any of them. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1183 on: December 12, 2021, 01:54:28 PM »
I agree my issue was Coombs as DC time to move on and Day addressed that with Knowles.Hafley looked decent but BC thought so too
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1184 on: December 12, 2021, 02:32:44 PM »
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1185 on: December 12, 2021, 05:22:43 PM »
To be honest, I don't think we know what Ryan Day is at this point.


I think we do.
He's a dude that took 24 B1G games to get his first loss.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1186 on: December 12, 2021, 06:04:22 PM »
so,...........he's on a downward trend
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1187 on: December 12, 2021, 06:40:12 PM »
Lots of HC inherited a great roster only to squander it in time. Larry Coker comes to mind, but it’s been awhile. 

I think it’s evident Ryan Day is a great coach, but can he sustain it?  

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« Reply #1188 on: December 12, 2021, 06:43:37 PM »
Sustaining a great program year in and year out ain't easy. I was impressed he had the offense going at a high level with guys he largely recruited. The defense was a struggle, but it has been a struggle often over the past few years. Certainly, he is taking steps to fix it - that will probably determine what he ends up being.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1189 on: December 12, 2021, 10:55:53 PM »

 

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