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utee94

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #994 on: December 03, 2021, 11:13:12 AM »
i used to like most of you and consider y'all friends. @MikeDeTiger being the exception.

after reading some of the stuff you guys eat and how you eat it, i'm not so sure anymore. again, @MikeDeTiger being the exception. :)

...and that's fair...

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #995 on: December 03, 2021, 11:15:00 AM »
Ha. So true.  And as you said- Italian food is so regionalized.

Here is a great cookbook from Northern Italy where my grandparents were from.  Exquisite recipes- and like most authentic Italian food-quite simple.

The red meat sauce that I make is probably a couple hundred years old, very simple, and something I have yet to taste in any restaurant.
We had some really good food in Trieste. I'm gonna get that book.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #996 on: December 03, 2021, 11:15:31 AM »


My point was that most people don't even know that what they call "Chinese" food is a completely made up Americanized version of Chinese food and not authentic at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Search_for_General_Tso

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #997 on: December 03, 2021, 11:16:53 AM »
I'd choose Italian if I'm the one cooking, and French if a chef's doing all the dirty work. :)

I'd definitely choose French wine and cheese above all others.

Man, I don't know. I just ordered a case from this place. It's absolutely wonderful.


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #999 on: December 03, 2021, 11:22:01 AM »
Agreed. You have to search out the authentic stuff.

My point was that most people don't even know that what they call "Chinese" food is a completely made up Americanized version of Chinese food and not authentic at all.

Just as most people in this country think of the NY/NJ "Italian" food that has promulgated throughout the country as actually Italian, when it's a made up Americanized version of Italian food.

We "know" we just don't care. 


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« Reply #1000 on: December 03, 2021, 11:29:17 AM »
Man, I don't know. I just ordered a case from this place. It's absolutely wonderful.


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I've spent a lot of time in both countries.  Italy certainly has some good wines.

But French wine is just so much better across the board.  I don't really think it's even close to be honest.  

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« Reply #1001 on: December 03, 2021, 11:34:28 AM »
And tomatoes weren't even indigenous to Europe, they were brought back from South America by the Spanish, so the Italians can go jump in a lake if they think they own the only proper ways to use that particular food.

Now, if the Aztecs come along and tell me I'm doing it wrong, I might listen.

The Aztecs might sacrifice you to the tomato God if you're doing it wrong.

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« Reply #1002 on: December 03, 2021, 11:57:34 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Search_for_General_Tso

Eating cacio e pepe in Rome is one of life's great foods.
Yeah, I've watched The Search for General Tso. Good stuff.

And yeah, my wife and I got cacio e pepe and a pizza at a sidewalk restaurant in Rome and although the pizza was delicious, we felt like we should have just ordered two [hell, or more] helpings of cacio e pepe. It was amazing. 

We "know" we just don't care.
That's fair. It was obviously tailored to American tastes, which is why nearly everything in American Chinese food is covered in huge quantities of sweet sugary sauce. 

If that's what y'all are into...

I've spent a lot of time in both countries.  Italy certainly has some good wines.

But French wine is just so much better across the board.  I don't really think it's even close to be honest. 
French wines are more romantic, but American wines consistently fare better in blind tastings...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)#Tasting_replications

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1003 on: December 03, 2021, 12:03:23 PM »


That's fair. It was obviously tailored to American tastes, which is why nearly everything in American Chinese food is covered in huge quantities of sweet sugary sauce.



Yeah, I'll take Kung Pao Chicken over Kung Pao Kitten anyday.

Heap that cheese on my taco while you are at it. I want the cheese to occupy more than 50% of the overall volume, if that's not too much trouble. 

Meat in the meat sauce? Not good enough, I want meatballs. Big ones, and lots of them. I don't even want to be able to see what's underneath.

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« Reply #1004 on: December 03, 2021, 12:08:45 PM »

French wines are more romantic, but American wines consistently fare better in blind tastings...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)#Tasting_replications

Yeah, no thanks.  California wines are a distant, DISTANT 5th or 6th place for me.  Like, after France, Italy, Spain, Argentina, Texas, North Dakota, Guam...

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #1005 on: December 03, 2021, 12:21:00 PM »
I can't lump California wines under some massive generalization.  Many better known brands are over priced, that's true for most things.  I have had some lesser known ones that are truly exceptional.  Steltzner made some incredible wines when he had his place.  But if you buy Silver Oak, you could buy another brand at 2/3rds the price as good or better.  

I like Far Niente a lot when I feel like affording them.  Nickel and Nickel as well, same outfit.  The great French wines almost all really need 25 years laying down to really be excellent, though that is changing I'm told.

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« Reply #1006 on: December 03, 2021, 12:27:30 PM »
Very cool, thanks, I might buy that for myself for Christmas.  I love cooking Italian food, I find it to be very approachable.

Here's an Amazon link, be sure to go through this website for anyone that wants to order! :)



https://www.amazon.com/Friuli-Food-Wine-Mountains-Vineyards/dp/0399580611/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3GXV3LUZEKPLT&keywords=friuli+food+and+wine+cookbook&qid=1638546595&s=books&sprefix=fruili+%2Cstripbooks%2C235&sr=1-2
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« Reply #1007 on: December 03, 2021, 12:30:31 PM »

 

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