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Topic: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 11-2) Post Game

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TyphonInc

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2017, 07:10:26 PM »
J.T. BARRETT UNDERWENT KNEE SURGERY SUNDAY

arthroscopic surgery on his right Knee

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2017, 08:20:13 PM »
J.T. BARRETT UNDERWENT KNEE SURGERY SUNDAY

arthroscopic surgery on his right Knee
So, will Ohio State get a pass from the Committee if Wisconsin wins?  Maybe a bump to stay in the top 11 and get a New Year's Day bowl assignment?
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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2017, 10:40:58 PM »

JT had knee surgery apparently. No real details on what kind of knee surgery exactly. Cleared for the CCG game though and expected to start. Could be a small little edge for Wisconsin if his knee is really bothering him and he's not able to make the quick cuts in the run game that make him such an effective runner. JT not the fastest guy in a straight line, always felt like it was his decision making in the read option run game, ability to fall forward for an extra yard or two, and his ability to make defenders miss was what made him such an effective runner. Never had that crazy top end speed like a Denard or Pryor, but he didn't need it. If he had that kind of speed- well he's already really damn great- he'd have been just ridiculous.

If he's hobbled up and can't really run effectively, that's an advantage for Wisconsin.
OR they give the RBs 40 carries and every JT hater is proved right and I'm enraged on two fronts. 
I already see it happening and am seething. 

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2017, 08:54:21 AM »
No point in making it it's own thread

#4 Wisconsin Badgers (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State Buckeyes (8-1, 10-2)
8:00 - Indianapolis, IN - FOX
Looks like Ohio State is up in the annual Badger Invitational in Indianapolis.  Penn State had it in their sights, and Michigan State made it interesting longer than expected, but in the end we got the matchup we all expected in the preseason.  The fact that Wisconsin got Iowa and Michigan late helped them stay focused when the division has otherwise been wrapped up since about the 3rd quarter of the BYU game.  It has also helped the offense round into form after some early unevenness.  This is being billed as the Buckeye Offense vs. the Wisconsin defense, and for good reason, Wisconsin leads the conference in scoring defense, total defense, run defense and pass defense, all by a healthy margin, while Ohio State leads all of those categories on the offensive side.  But it's Bucky's offense which is being ignored.  Aside from Hornibrook's interception issue, it is as good as any in the conference outside of Columbus.  Even the maligned passing game is 3rd in the Big Ten in completion percentage, and 2nd in yards per attempt.  The issue is that horrible 1 in 14.83 interception ratio, worst in the conference.  It's particularly odd when you consider Hornibrook's completion percentage on the whole is so good.  1 in 5.58 incompletions is an interception.  For comparison, Illinois has the 2nd worst interception ratio at 1 in 18.21, but their interceptions on incompletions ratio is 1 in 9.36; and best in the Big Ten is Maryland's 1 in 25, which is when you only complete 51% of your passes, but also only throw 5 interceptions.  As good as Ohio State's offense is, Wisconsin has a defense good enough to cause some stops.  We saw Michigan give them trouble for a good portion of the game last week, and Wisconsin's defense is better.  Best in the nation.  But does Ohio State have enough defense to stop Wisconsin?  They are going to have to cause turnovers, and frankly that is something they haven't done at a high rate this year, particularly considering how often they were playing from ahead, necessitating their opponents to take risks.  They should have been far higher than 7th in the Big Ten in takeaways.  The fan balance in the dome might play a factor.  When Ohio State's offense was operating at its peak, the fourth quarter against Penn State and the first half against Michigan State, they were executing their tempo perfectly.  They have to find that rhythm to try and get the Badgers off balance.  That tempo didn't seem to travel well.  Once the crowd in Iowa City got going, and then last week in Ann Arbor, even when the offense was working, the tempo was nothing like what I saw in those other two games.  The tailbacks are good, but the receiving options aren't quite up to Ohio State's normal level, where they can overwhelm you on the edges.  The Buckeyes only chance is to find that rhythm again, but I haven't seen it yet outside the Shoe.
WISCONSIN 31, OHIO STATE 24

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2017, 10:03:11 AM »
nice breakdown ELA. I think Wisconsin wins as long as Hornibrook doesn't start making it rain interceptions. You just never know with him. He takes care of the ball, I think your score will prove to be pretty close.

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2017, 10:06:47 AM »
OR they give the RBs 40 carries and every JT hater is proved right and I'm enraged on two fronts.
I already see it happening and am seething.
JT/RB's- it all works hand in hand though. Defenses defend the backs on those zone reads and JT starts gashing them, so they go to defending JT and the backs gash them. If JT can't really do it because he's hobble by the knee defense can just tee off on the backs. They do call run plays specifically for JT- but a lot of his runs are just him reading the defenders crashing down and then keeping the ball.

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2017, 10:37:04 AM »
WISCONSIN 31, OHIO STATE 24
Seems about right. I really just hoping the "let's get embarrassed" OSU team doesn't show up, and we have a competitive 4 quarters. 

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2017, 10:40:48 AM »
sorry badgers, I put the kiss of death on y'all

taking the 6.5 points the Bucks are giving

cursed the Wolverines last week
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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2017, 10:45:11 AM »
sorry badgers, I put the kiss of death on y'all

taking the 6.5 points the Bucks are giving

cursed the Wolverines last week
they were cursed the moment John O'Korn was named starting QB. Nothing you did.

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2017, 10:53:06 AM »
they were cursed the moment John O'Korn was named starting QB. Nothing you did.

The Wisconsin effect... 
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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2017, 11:00:19 AM »
The Wisconsin effect...
The Wisconsin effect happened when those M'fers knocked Peters out the game and into next week. Literally.

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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2017, 11:04:35 AM »
the Harbaugh QB whisperer effect
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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2017, 11:16:59 AM »
the Harbaugh QB whisperer effect
well he did pretty good with Rudock in 2015 and OK with Speight in 2016. Iowa/Ferentz thought Rudock couldn't play. Benched him for Beathard. Rudock wound up being pretty darn good. Speight has a lot of limitations, he is what he is, but Harbaugh probably got the maximum out of him. Peters was looking pretty good as a freshman, although he only started 3 games and wasn't asked to carry the team on his shoulders. Aside from that fumble, he was having a pretty nice 1st half on the road against a great Wisconsin team until he got knocked unconscious into next week in the 2nd half.
can we really blame John O'Korn's awfulness entirely on Harbaugh? Jim and his OC were dialing up nice plays against Ohio State. O'Korn missed damn near every one of them. At what point does the player bare any responsibility? O'Korn couldn't pick up first downs against Rutgers. Rutgers. That's why Peters got his shot to play. O'Korn was 2nd to last in the entire college football world in Total QBR and he did lose his job at Houston to a 5-foot-nine inch, 180 pound kid that was playing wide receiver the year before in Greg Ward. That all on Jim too? Blame Jim for bringing that bum to Michigan and keeping him there, don't blame him for O'Korn sucking. That's all on John O'Korn.
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Re: BTCG #5 Wisconsin (9-0, 12-0) vs. #8 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2)
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2017, 12:21:33 PM »
UW's No. 2 RB and top blocking TE are out. Eff.

UW is down its top projected three receivers off last year, plus a linebacker who could well have been one of the best in the conference and had another very good linebacker miss some time. Considering all that, can't be mad at the year, no matter what happens Saturday. 

 

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