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Bruce Snyder lost the 2000 Aloha Bowl, Dirk Koetter lost the 2006 Hawaii Bowl, Dennis Erickson lost the 2011 Vegas Bowl, and short of a miraculous comeback Todd Graham will likely lose the 2017 Sun Bowl.

On top of us all knowing that a lame duck coached team won't be motivated, the opposite was easy to call for NC State. Dave Doeren just signed a bloated extension and because of that I knew he'd have his squad motivated for at least this game.

No clue what Darnold was thinking there. And that's why I'd take Rosen over him if I was an NFL team. Rosen is a better pure passer, seems like a smarter player who reads coverages and anticipates better. Rosen doesn't have nearly as many WTF was that moments. 

Darnold a big talent and I think he'll be a good pro, but when you're picking #1 or #2 you go with the more "sure" pick. Not that Rosen is a sure pick, no one is a sure pick. He's just more sure than Darnold.

OSU up 17-0 looks like they are about to open up a can of whoop ass.

OSU edged USC in the Cotton Bowl

B1G is 5-0!!!

And the last three teams are favored if I’m reading it right. 

The Cotton Bowl was as interesting as Jerry World.  

PSU and Wiscy up today in two good games.  I think Washington was the best team in the PAC this year, so we'll see what PSU has for them.  

I'm not in love with any of these guys at qb, but people going bonkers over this Darnold tape.  Peyton Manning was humiliated in his final college game.  Relax

Yeah it was only one game but this kid has had turnover problems and he's only been a starter 2 years. Peyton was a starter 4 straight years didn't turn it over quite as often, he was far more efficient and advanced than Darnold but clearly less physically gifted.
I think he'll be a good pro. I just happen to think Rosen will be a better one. Rosen is Goff or Matt Ryan 2.0. Similar build and athletic skills, but better arm talent than either. I like Rosen a lot man. I think he's gonna be realllllll good.

I missed that.  Suppose that's a shrewd ad.  The tax and cpas of the world are the most popular people at NYE parties this year.   I've spent way too much time this week planning.