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medinabuckeye1

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B1GCG Races
« on: October 11, 2023, 03:31:50 PM »
B1G-W:
As I said elsewhere, if Wisconsin beats Iowa this weekend, you can pretty much write in "Badgers" as the B1G-W representative in Indianapolis.  An Iowa win would put the Hawkeyes in the driver's seat, but they would be less assured than a victorious Wisconsin.  

B1G-E:
I just can't see how Maryland can recover from the loss to tOSU to get in this race.  They simply aren't as good as the Big Three so they needed to take advantage when they were in the game after halftime and they just couldn't do it.  

That brings us the the Big Three and it is pretty simple.  If one of them can sweep the other two, they are in even if they do lose an upset somewhere else.  If not then either whoever loses in an upset is out and the winner of the other two goes or else the final and most interesting possibility:

If #2 Michigan, #3 Ohio State, and #6 Penn State all finish 11-1/8-1 then the team that goes to the B1GCG will be the team whose B1G-W opponents have the best cumulative league record.  As of right now that stands at:

4-4 Ohio State:

  • 2-0 Wisconsin
  • 1-2 Minnesota
  • 1-2 Purdue
3-6 Michigan:
  • 1-2 Nebraska
  • 1-2 Minnesota
  • 1-2 Purdue

3-6 Penn State:
  • 2-1 Iowa
  • 1-2 Northwestern
  • 0-3 Illinois
Northwestern's upset win over Minnesota is the only thing keeping Penn State even in this race.  Had Minnesota won that game the Buckeyes' opponents would be 5-3, the Wolverines' would be 4-5, and Penn States' would be 2-7.  

The Buckeyes are big Badger fans this weekend because a Wisconsin win helps tOSU AND hurts PSU.  

LittlePig

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2023, 05:44:53 PM »
I just love that 3-way tiebreakers in the east can maybe be decided by who won the NW-Minn game. 

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2023, 05:52:59 PM »
I just love that 3-way tiebreakers in the east can maybe be decided by who won the NW-Minn game.
mind blowing really lol. 

medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2023, 06:52:25 PM »
I just love that 3-way tiebreakers in the east can maybe be decided by who won the NW-Minn game.
mind blowing really lol.
It is funny, but it is also extremely unlikely. 

It looks like PSU is screwed here because the two Illinois schools look terrible. 

That leaves tOSU and M and they share PU and MN so the only issue is how UNL compares to UW. As an Ohio State fan I feel pretty good about that in the event of a three-way tie. If Wisconsin beats Iowa this weekend I'll feel really good.

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2023, 07:26:15 PM »
So Iowa-Wisconsin might not only decide the west, but also the east? 

Penn St gets Iowa, and OSU gets Wisconsin, with the relevant tie breaker being the crossover opponent record. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2023, 08:25:46 PM »
I just love that 3-way tiebreakers in the east can maybe be decided by who won the NW-Minn game.
As Woody and Bo willed it.

At least it's two long term members.  Imagine Minnesota missing out on their first CCG because of the result of a Rutgers-Maryland game

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2023, 07:53:48 AM »
As Woody and Bo willed it.

At least it's two long term members.  Imagine Minnesota missing out on their first CCG because of the result of a Rutgers-Maryland game
Charters >> interlopers.


It just means more.
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LittlePig

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2023, 08:07:00 AM »
Charters >> interlopers.


It just means more.
Depending on how far you want to go back,  The Big Ten next year will  have almost as many interlopers as charters. 

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2023, 08:09:15 AM »
Already do.

2024 will have 12 interlopers to 6 charters (or 13/5 if you don't count Michigan as a charter since they left for a while).
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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2023, 08:16:27 AM »
13/5
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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2023, 08:22:38 AM »
Already do.

2024 will have 12 interlopers to 6 charters (or 13/5 if you don't count Michigan as a charter since they left for a while).
I am ashamed I don't know this,  but who were the original charter members of the conference?

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2023, 08:39:05 AM »
Chicago
Illinois
Michigan (left for 10 years)
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Wisconsin

Iowa and Indiana joined in 1899. OSU joined in 1912. Michigan came back in 1917. Chicago dropped football in 1939 and left for good in 1946. MSU joined in 1950.
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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2023, 08:42:27 AM »
If the bean counters pared it back down to ten, Michigan and Wisconsin are about the only two charter members that would make the cut. And the Wolverines get a giant asterisk for leaving and coming back. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: B1GCG Races
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2023, 08:52:06 AM »
If the bean counters pared it back down to ten, Michigan and Wisconsin are about the only two charter members that would make the cut. And the Wolverines get a giant asterisk for leaving and coming back.
Probably so.

Michigan
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Penn State
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington


And??
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