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847badgerfan

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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2020, 02:36:06 PM »
They are not named.

UW won't be at full strength until Thanksgiving.
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2020, 02:51:26 PM »
SEC having some covid issues this week it seems
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2020, 02:56:58 PM »
apparently, it's tough to lock people up
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2020, 04:06:27 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 09, 2020, 02:36:06 PM
They are not named.

UW won't be at full strength until Thanksgiving.

Most places are not naming students (Trevor Lawrence notable expectation), but I feel more often than not staff does get named. 

Hope Wisconsin can make it to full strength. As a competitor I would want my opponent to be able to give me his best shot. No one wants to Face Michael Jordan with food poisoning... Oh wait.
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2020, 10:04:37 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 09, 2020, 07:19:19 AM
Does Wisconsin really need a QB?  I see little chance of Michigan stopping Wisconsin’s running game.

Michigan’s “speed in space” offense will largely consist of them running off the field after 3 downs.
UW's run game wasn't great in Game 1. Backfield is a bit thin, line was so-so. 

Need that QB, though at this case, I'd settle for just playing a game. 
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2020, 12:41:58 PM »
This week's games by current Power Ranking:

  • #1 tOSU at #7 UMD
  • #2 IU at #13 MSU
  • #3 NU at #5 PU
  • #4 UW at #8 M
  • #6 Iowa at #9 MN
  • #10 RU vs #14 IL
  • #11 UNL vs #12 PSU

The thing that jumps out at me is that in five of this weekend's seven games the higher ranked team is on the road.  We'll probably see some upsets.  

IMHO the NU @ PU game is the GOTW but that is somewhat dependent on the status of Wisconsin.  If the Badgers play and look particularly dominant in Ann Arbor then the NU/PU game might be a side-show.  However, if the Badgers miss another game they are ineligible for the B1GCG (unless everyone else starts missing soon).  If the Badgers play but lose or look shaky then we are back to NU@PU being the GOTW.  

The games:
tOSU at UMD:  Maryland looked horrible against NU then improved but still not good against Minnesota then they looked phenomenal against Penn State.  If that trajectory continues they'll beat Ohio State this weekend and end up winning the B1G and the CFP.  I don't think that it will . . .

IU at MSU:  If the Hoosiers and Ohio State win then next week's IU@tOSU game will probably host Gameday.  In that case it would be a top-10 showdown for a nearly unassailable lead in the B1G-E.  

NU at PU:  Covered above.  This is huge for both because if UW misses another game the winner here is almost assured of a spot in the CG.  Even if UW plays the rest of their games the winner of this will have a shot especially if it is Purdue because the Boilermakers missed UW.  

UW at M:  Who knows what to expect from either team.  

Iowa at MN:  I think that Iowa was very underrated last week and they still might be somewhat underrated.  

RU vs IL:  I would guess that it has been a while since RU was favored in a conference game.  

UNL vs PSU:  Nebraska hasn't looked terrible and if the wind has been taken out of PSU's sails . . .  The losing coach might feel some warmth under their seat.  


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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2020, 01:50:47 PM »
#11 UNL vs #12 PSU

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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2020, 01:52:19 PM »
I don't think UW will beat Michigan. Bye weeks are not good normally, let alone having TWO. Plus, they will be without at least 15 players - most of whom we don't know who they are.

Jim's back is against the wall. I expect a solid effort from UM.
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2020, 01:55:46 PM »
Jim's back was against the wall last week
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2020, 01:57:50 PM »
I think it's time we all admit that IU is pretty darn good.

Seems like football in Indiana (state of) is at a peak right now. IU, PU and ND all unbeaten. When was the last time, if ever, that has happened through this many games in a season?
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2020, 02:01:27 PM »
the Hoosiers are pretty good.  I think they were pretty good last season.

but, Michigan has a ton more talent and I thought after Michigan's loss to Sparty, Jim would have his team ready to ball.

Well, at least the defense.

I was wrong last week.

I don't think Michigan has much left.  Could be similar to Penn St.

Gives me a bit of hope for the Huskers this week vs the Nits
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2020, 03:20:39 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 10, 2020, 01:57:50 PM
I think it's time we all admit that IU is pretty darn good.

Seems like football in Indiana (state of) is at a peak right now. IU, PU and ND all unbeaten. When was the last time, if ever, that has happened through this many games in a season?
Probably more times than you'd think.

Of course if you'd phrased it "when was the last time, if ever, that has happened after the first week of November in a season" it probably has never happened.

But the idea that Purdue and Indiana could be 2-0 and 3-0, respectively, against OOC patsies, while in the same year ND (a historic helmet team) started 6-0, I'd bet you could find a few examples.

The hardest thing would be that Purdue and Notre Dame used to play annually, I think something like 45 straight years, so it would have to be a year that the Purdue/Notre Dame matchup wasn't until at least the third game of the season for Purdue to start 2-0. 
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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2020, 04:23:12 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 10, 2020, 01:57:50 PM
I think it's time we all admit that IU is pretty darn good.
I'm still not sure what to think about IU.  

I'm still kinda stuck on that PSU game a little bit.  That "felt" to me like an upset where the inferior team (IU) had a lot of things go their way and barely scraped out a win over the superior team:
  • PSU outgained IU 488-211
  • PSU possessed the ball more than twice as long as IU
  • PSU had more first downs 27-16
  • PSU was WAY better on third down 9/17 vs 4/12
  • PSU had more yards per pass 6.8-4.7
  • PSU had more yards per rush 4.8-1.6
  • PSU had an abysmal day kicking (0-3 on FG's to IU's 2-2)
Then there are the turnovers.  IU had two and PSU had three which isn't a huge gap, but PSU's were vastly more costly.  
IU's turnovers:
  • IU's first turnover was a fumble right after PSU fumbled so that is basically just a wash anyway and, in any case, PSU got the ball down 17-7 with just a few seconds left in the first half and promptly missed the chip-shot FG so this fumble ultimately cost IU nothing.  
  • IU's second turnover was an INT on the first play of their second drive of the second half.  PSU turned that into a TD.  
  • PSU scored 7 points off of IU's two turnovers.  
PSU's turnovers:
  • PSU's first turnover was an INT near mid-field when PSU was leading 7-0.  IU turned it into a FG to make it 7-3.  If PSU doesn't lose the ball there they might score and not only that game, but their entire season might look very different.  
  • PSU's second turnover was an INT near their own goal line while trailing 10-7 mid-way through the second quarter.  IU scored two plays later (from four yards out) to extend their lead to 17-7.  
  • PSU's third turnover was a fumble near the end of the first half that IU gave right back.  This was after PSU drove 66 yards while trailing 17-7.  
  • IU scored 10 points off of PSU's three turnovers.  
It just "feels like" if you played that game nine more times PSU would end up at least 8-2.  


The Michigan game, however, did NOT feel like an upset.  IU flat out dominated that game.  Same stats:
  • IU outgained M 460-357
  • IU possessed the ball almost twice as long as M
  • IU had more first downs 28-17
  • IU was WAY better on third down 9/18 vs 3/11
  • M had more yards per pass 10.1-6.8
  • IU had more yards per rush 3.1-0.7 - seriously, Michigan was held to two FEET per rush by Indiana.  
  • There were no kicking-game SNAFU's on either side.  IU converted the only FG attempt of the day from 52 yards and the two teams went a combined 8/8 on XP's.  

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Re: B1G Week Four
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2020, 06:02:10 PM »
How could Penn St, Nebraska and Michigan all be THIS bad simultaneously?

The Brown Jug is the only win between the three of them. You'd think that one would be up if the other two were down, but that does not appear to be the case.
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