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Topic: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?

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ELA

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2023, 07:42:44 PM »
It will tighten, then the bottom will get mad that they are going 2-10 instead of 8-4, and it'll tighten again, same.  Then they will realize that no alums care anymore, and nobody grew up going to games, and all they have is minor league football.  Ask the USFL/XFL how that goes.


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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2023, 12:25:25 AM »
What would a version of this look like in another year? 2010 or something like that. 

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2023, 02:17:48 AM »
We (or maybe just I) thought transfer portal would = talented players leaving top programs to get actual playing time at lesser programs, BUT....it's more like transfer portal = top programs filling in gaps by picking and choosing the best from lesser programs.
Oh, and NIL = $$$ = advantage top programs 
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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2023, 05:06:01 AM »
How often was YOUR TEAM actually excellent at many positions but quite weak in 2-3 critical areas (in the past)?

LSU this season is said to be great on O and terrible on D.  Are elite teams today filling gaps via the portal more than recruiting?

Incidentally, there is "rumor" (by highly placed insiders etc.) that both Bowers and Beck may come back next year, speaking of an NIL impact.  If you can make a million plus in college, would you wait?  (I think any first rounder should go.)


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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2023, 07:43:38 AM »
It could have an opposite effect some dude portals in makes impressive scratch from NIL. Thus pissing off other starters maybe portaling out to get the same
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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2023, 07:52:58 AM »
A coach should reflect on the motivations of some "star" wanting to join his program and whether the NIL is the main reason.

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2023, 10:55:51 AM »

LSU this season is said to be great on O and terrible on D.  Are elite teams today filling gaps via the portal more than recruiting?

Incidentally, there is "rumor" (by highly placed insiders etc.) that both Bowers and Beck may come back next year, speaking of an NIL impact.  If you can make a million plus in college, would you wait?  (I think any first rounder should go.)

Not just said to be...they really are.  To your question, LSU filled in the most important spot with a portal transfer (Daniels), although he transferred in before last season.  So on the side of the ball LSU is elite at, a portal guy is the biggest reason for that.  On the side of the ball they suck at, there are also portal guys--also who came before this season--guys who had been decently good at other schools, and guys who were decently good at LSU last year.  In that case the portal didn't mean a hill of beans.  They still sucked.  

According to Aaron Murray, if Beck comes back it will be because the NILsters came up with $4 mil for him.  Not merely "a million plus."  I mean, technically it is a million plus, but the plus is a lot bigger than the million there.  

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2023, 11:03:30 AM »
We (or maybe just I) thought transfer portal would = talented players leaving top programs to get actual playing time at lesser programs, BUT....it's more like transfer portal = top programs filling in gaps by picking and choosing the best from lesser programs.
Oh, and NIL = $$$ = advantage top programs
this is exactly what's happening. 

Michigan has been able to pluck kids from Stanford, Virginia, Coastal Carolina, UMass in the portal to plug holes the last couple seasons and used NIL to keep guys an extra year like Blake Corum, Zak Zinter, Trevor Keegan, and a few others that are surefire NFL draft picks and would've had no choice but to leave early for the draft pre-NIL. 

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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2023, 11:14:09 AM »
Not just said to be...they really are.  To your question, LSU filled in the most important spot with a portal transfer (Daniels), although he transferred in before last season.  So on the side of the ball LSU is elite at, a portal guy is the biggest reason for that.  On the side of the ball they suck at, there are also portal guys--also who came before this season--guys who had been decently good at other schools, and guys who were decently good at LSU last year.  In that case the portal didn't mean a hill of beans.  They still sucked. 

According to Aaron Murray, if Beck comes back it will be because the NILsters came up with $4 mil for him.  Not merely "a million plus."  I mean, technically it is a million plus, but the plus is a lot bigger than the million there. 
If Beck gets paid that much, it’s going to be a little funny.

One of the problems with CFB economics is that prices tend to match institution/position rather than ability. The main reason he is even talked about that number is because he’s already at Georgia. And with a number of quarterbacks out there, the Bulldogs could get more and pay less. (this problem is also rampant in the coaching space)

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2023, 11:59:42 AM »
I make a million minus, always have.

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2023, 12:11:25 PM »
I feel the rich are getting richer

and more so, the poor are getting poorer

and its's going to get worse
This is the reason why you'll never hear any talk about kicking out Vandy, Rutgers, or Northwestern. Conference losses have to go somewhere. 

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2023, 12:13:08 PM »
Ed Zachery, the Helmets might separate from them but they will continue to play them for pay, like a non-con game
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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2023, 12:14:49 PM »
So, we may reach soon a day when say Ohio State plays six teams with effectively zero chance of competing.  I'm not talking about 35-13 kinds of scores, but more 65-7, routinely.  Then three teams with an outside chance on a good day, and three actually competitive teams?

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Re: Are the rich already getting richer or is this just a freak thing?
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2023, 12:19:40 PM »
yup, then they are seeded into a 12-team playoff to decide the MNC
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