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Topic: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #98 on: February 03, 2022, 09:25:49 AM »
it's just annoying - every time the guy has a good season the NFL crap starts. either shit or get off the pot. soon as he has a down season no NFL talk. soon as he rebounds in a huge way - NFL crap starts all over again.

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #99 on: February 03, 2022, 09:33:12 AM »



Jim Harbaugh told Warde Manuel that this would not be a re-occurring issue and he would stay at Michigan as long as it wants him, per sources. https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 3, 2022  ">
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Jim Harbaugh told Warde Manuel that this would not be a re-occurring issue and he would stay at Michigan as long as it wants him, per sources. https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 3, 2022
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #100 on: February 03, 2022, 09:36:43 AM »


Jim Harbaugh told Warde Manuel that this would not be a re-occurring issue and he would stay at Michigan as long as it wants him, per sources. https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 3, 2022  ">
yeah, saying that and doing something about it is one thing.

I don't think this is the end of the Harbaugh to the NFL bullshit. He'll eventually go back when he gets the right offer imo.

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #101 on: February 03, 2022, 09:40:23 AM »
yeah, saying that and doing something about it is one thing.

I don't think this is the end of the Harbaugh to the NFL bullshit. He'll eventually go back when he gets the right offer imo.

Well, it is a free country.
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #102 on: February 03, 2022, 09:50:55 AM »
I watched Michigan play twice this year, one outing was fabulous and the other not so much (OSU and UGA).  I watched parts of the MSU game where they seemed just behind the 8 ball too often.  They clearly had a high level team, and nobody won them all.  I think mostly they might need to improve depth on defense a bit, replace the guys they lost, and upgrade on offense at QB some.  I was surprised they defeated OSU who I thought was really good at that point.


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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #103 on: February 03, 2022, 12:52:30 PM »
I watched Michigan play twice this year, one outing was fabulous and the other not so much (OSU and UGA).  I watched parts of the MSU game where they seemed just behind the 8 ball too often.  They clearly had a high level team, and nobody won them all.  I think mostly they might need to improve depth on defense a bit, replace the guys they lost, and upgrade on offense at QB some.  I was surprised they defeated OSU who I thought was really good at that point.
looking back - Ohio State was a good matchup for Michigan, and Georgia was a terrible matchup for Michigan. Ohio State front 7 been soft vs the run all year. Georgia's front 7 has been dominant all-year. Michigan lined up and ran right at OSU for 60 mins. Welp, can't do that vs Georgia - doesn't work. My thinking was Michigan would try to spread Georgia out - go tempo and try to get the ball out fast. Welp, Michigan isn't really built to do that and Cade McNamara just can't really do that. I wasn't surprised that Michigan wasn't finding success on offense vs Georgia. I was shocked however that Georgia's offense and Bennett basically did whatever they wanted vs Michigan's defense. 

Michigan's biggest weakness on defense was by far the secondary and the DT's. They recruited the sh*t out of secondary and DT this cycle, but not sure that pays off in year 1 of all the new guys being there - probably won't til year 2 & 3 - although I wouldn't be shocked to see 5* CB Will Johnson come in right away and play at a high level and be the best CB Michigan has had in a minute. CB & RB probably the easiest position for young guys to come in right away and play at a high level. Not sure you can replace a pass rush combo like Hutchinson & Ojabo. They've got Braiden McGregor who has the talent - but he's yet to put it together. 

They need to open the offense up and hand the keys to JJ McCarthy. That kid is so talented it's not even funny. He's got a big arm and he's accurate, he can really run, and he can escape the pocket and throw on the run accurately as well. They need to just give him the reins and build an offense around him. 

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #104 on: February 03, 2022, 12:56:41 PM »
Well, it is a free country.
yeah, well no shit.

not saying that. Bama/Saban never had to deal with this yearly. Urban at UF/OSU didn't have to deal with this shit yearly.

Harbaugh could easily put an end to it by refusing to interview for NFL jobs, reaffirm his commitment to Michigan, and basically hang up on NFL teams when they call. He never exactly shuts that talk down.

It has gotten old. We had to deal with this yearly his first 3-4 years, and the only reason it stopped is because he started losing and had couple bad seasons and a really disastrous 2-4 season. Soon as he wins the B1G and makes the playoff- that shit starts up again.

I really just want him back in the NFL. I'm done with him, over it, and have been for a minute. Only reason I am happy he's back right now is because him leaving this late in the game on NSD would've f***ked Michigan - they wouldn't have been able to hire anyone good and they'd have lost 5* CB Will Johnson and probably some other guys. IF he does this shit again next year, I'll REALLY be done with him - and I would just hope he decided to take the NFL job in Dec or early Jan so Michigan can actually have time to find a replacement. 

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #106 on: February 03, 2022, 01:29:40 PM »
Turning now to 2022, big year for Gattis.  UM seems to keep finding defensive talent, but they lost a lot, and their DC.

But...the offense appears to be absolutely loaded.  I expect Edwards to have an increased role, and the only OL that graduated is being replaced by a Rimington finalist.

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #107 on: February 03, 2022, 06:24:07 PM »
Turning now to 2022, big year for Gattis.  UM seems to keep finding defensive talent, but they lost a lot, and their DC.

But...the offense appears to be absolutely loaded.  I expect Edwards to have an increased role, and the only OL that graduated is being replaced by a Rimington finalist.
they are also losing the RT Steuber - so need to replace the RT. But yeah, they lucked out as they'll be replacing the graduating C Vastardis with a guy that is probably better than Varstadis. So what was a really good OL in 2021 shouldn't really fall off in 2022 - should be a really good OL again.

Plus they also get Ronnie Bell back from injury - who was their best WR by far - and their pair of 2021 5* froshies QB JJ McCarthy and RB Donovan Edwards have a whole year of experience and some real playing time under their belts now. Both these guys should take jumps in 2022. 

Big-time put up or shut up year but not for Gattis imo - for Harbaugh. That isn't Gattis' offense- it's not like he has total control. Harbaugh's fingerprints are all over that motherf**ker. 

IF they aren't running way more tempo, way more zone read, way more RPO stuff and McCarthy isn't starting at QB and Edwards isn't getting at least 500 yards receiving and being used on wheel routes multiple times a game and sent into motion from the backfield and split out wide regularly - something is wrong and Jim just has to fire himself and go to the NFL. Seriously.  

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #108 on: February 03, 2022, 09:20:04 PM »
I look more at Edwards.  He is an absolute cheat code.  He is a very good running back, and an absolute elite pass catcher.  He is what guys like LeVeon Bell and Marshall Faulk became as pros, as a sophomore.  If Gattis is worth his price he could win a Silver Football.  He's scary talented.

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #109 on: February 04, 2022, 08:07:09 AM »
On offense Michigan needs a bruiser RB/FB.  On defense they need a lot, players need to step up pretty much at every position.
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2022, 09:53:48 AM »
Michigan’s season was no fluke.  

They practice and bring a level of physicality most teams can’t match, and now have the skill players in offense to keep defenses way off balance. 

Even with the loss of those two elite pass rusher’s, the defensive scheme will be competitive at worst.

Looking at their schedule, which seems a bit on the easy side to me, I don’t see any reason they should not go into every game with the expectation of a win.  
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2022, 09:56:58 AM »
Michigan’s season was no fluke. 

They practice and bring a level of physicality most teams can’t match, and now have the skill players in offense to keep defenses way off balance.

Even with the loss of those two elite pass rusher’s, the defensive scheme will be competitive at worst.

Looking at their schedule, which seems a bit on the easy side to me, I don’t see any reason they should not go into every game with the expectation of a win. 
it is a pretty easy schedule - but @Iowa will be tough - playing @Kinnick is always a sonofabitch. They get Penn State and Michigan State at home - which is always nice to have those in Ann Arbor vs going on the road. And then obviously @ Ohio State to end the season looms large - that'll very likely be an L.

 

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