2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

[CatsbyAZ]

Penny Hardaway showing why I think he’ll always accumulate talent but never win big with it.  His bench was chaos the last 5 minutes.  Had two players that had to be separated during a timeout.  The last 30 seconds he wanted to make a substitution but his player didn’t properly check in so he couldn’t enter the game.  Then at the end when Memphis lost he chucks a water bottle across the court.

I don't quite know what to make of Penny because his team got better with less talent.

This year they have two top-100 recruits, three 247 four-stars, most pretty fringy. That's basically a nice Big Ten team. And you'd think if he's chaotic and such behind the bench, they'd be really nice on offense because of the talent, but not on defense. Yet his second and third teams, the ones that were on the outside looking in, rocked on defense and struggled with guard play. So it feels like he's doing some level of coaching, but also a lot of dumb stuff. It's a very weird ride he gets to continue.

For all the cynicism I've spouted about college programs going gaga for hiring blast-from-the-past NBA faces - Patrick Ewing, Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, Damon Stoudamire just hired by Georgia Tech - it's Anfernee Hardaway that has Memphis consistently winning and even slightly improving year by year. Last year getting the Tigers into the Tournament for the first time and advancing to the Second Round, now in his fifth season Anfernee wins the conference tournament with a 26-8 record, beating #1 Houston in the final.

One thing I'll say about Hardaway losing his sideline composure to end Memphis' loss last Friday is that I think it's very predictable that these former players turned coaches would be very emotional. Think Juwan Howard hitting a Wisconsin assistant coach in the face last year. More room is given for players to lose their emotions on the court/field unlike their coaches. Now, hire a coach whose years are spent and reputation is based more on their playing days and I'm not at all surprised to see how heated Hardaway and Howard get on the sidelines.

[FearlessF]

Cats vs Cats is good entertainment

along with flipping over to golf during breaks

[FearlessF]

Now, hire a coach whose years are spent and reputation is based more on their playing days and I'm not at all surprised to see how heated Hardaway and Howard get on the sidelines.

I'm sure Bobby Knight played some ball previously

hell, every major coach was a player

[betarhoalphadelta]

Purdue has done most of that just in the last three years.

Yep. Just in Painter's tenure, he's lost to an 11, 12, 13, 15, and 16. 

I'm sure we'll add a 14 in there at some point. Definitely ahead of Bennett @ UVA that only has a 10, 13, and 16! So that's good!

[medinabuckeye1]

I'm sure Bobby Knight played some ball previously

Played in three National Championship Games and won an NC as a Buckeye!

[FearlessF]

yup, giving a coach a pass cause he's an emotional former player is foolish

show me a coach that wasn't a player

[bayareabadger]

I'm confused.
According to my phone Michigan was an NIT #2 seed and played #3 seed Vanderbilt . . . in Nashville. Why there and not Amn Arbor?

When they first put out the bracket, they had several if not all of the two and three seeds flipped. A lot of folks just took that uploaded and didn’t bother to update it, because really why would you?

So Michigan was a three seed

[medinabuckeye1]

When they first put out the bracket, they had several if not all of the two and three seeds flipped. A lot of folks just took that uploaded and didn’t bother to update it, because really why would you?

So Michigan was a three seed

Thank you.

[ELA]

One thing I'll say about Hardaway losing his sideline composure to end Memphis' loss last Friday is that I think it's very predictable that these former players turned coaches would be very emotional. Think Juwan Howard hitting a Wisconsin assistant coach in the face last year. More room is given for players to lose their emotions on the court/field unlike their coaches. Now, hire a coach whose years are spent and reputation is based more on their playing days and I'm not at all surprised to see how heated Hardaway and Howard get on the sidelines.

Almost every coach was a former high level player. The only recemt change, is schools hiring underqualified coaches simply because they were stars at the school.

[medinabuckeye1]

S16 by seed:

• Houston, Bama 
• Texas, UCLA
• Xavier, KSU,  Gonzaga
• Tennessee, UCONN
• SDSU, Miami 
• Creighton
• MSU
• Arkansas
• FAU
• n/a
• n/a
• n/a
• n/a
• n/a
• Princeton 
• n/a

[Kris60]

If any of you ever put a shekel or two on games and care about such things, the end of the TCU-Gonzaga game was either one of the all time great covers or all time worst beats (depending on which side you were on) you will ever see.

The line was Gonzaga -4.5.  With 9 seconds left GU had it covered.  From that point on they went from not covering, to covering, to ultimately not covering.

The way it happened was bizarre though.  After two ft put GU up by 7 with 9 seconds left TCU comes down and hits a 3 with under 5 seconds left to cut it to 4.  After the Zags successfully inbounded the ball it appeared TCU was just going to let them run the clock out but a kid decides to reach  in with 0.7 seconds to send Gonzaga to the line.

Having TCU +4.5 I was apoplectic at this.  It was actually going to be the second game of the tournament I had lost with a meaningless foul with 0.7 seconds left.  The Gonzaga kid hits both shots to put them up by 6 and seemingly seal my fate.

But on the inbound instead of just lazily tossing it in and letting the clock run out the TCU kid just rolls it down the court and Gonzaga just lets him.  So, the ball is slowly rolling down the court until a kid from TCU picks it up from about 25 feet and bottoms one out at the buzzer.  Ball game.  And you could hear audible groans from the crowd when it went in.

[847badgerfan]

The Badgers did something yesterday that they have not done since January3.

They won consecutive games.

[847badgerfan]

What's left of the Big Ten after one weekend:

One S16 rep - MSU (Izzo mowing the Big Ten lawn once again)

One NIT rep - UW

[FearlessF]

hard to be overrated when ya weren't highly rated