2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

[847badgerfan]

Collins supposedly did not want an afternoon game.

[ELA]

After MSU lost, I turned it to Maryland-Purdue, and my 9 year old said "can you put on another game, Purdue fans just booth refs the whole game.  It's annoying"

[FearlessF]

well, the refs have sucked

[ELA]

Refs were fine in Bloomington.  MSU just stopped playing defense

[ELA]

Hoggards style gets him to the line a lot, particularly last year, when he was an awful FT shooter.  He had totally flipped that this year, but since he missed those 2 critical ones against Purdue, he seems to have the yips.  He was even standing off center tonight to get it back.  If he's this off, guys are going to freely hack away if he seems to have an edge to the hoop

[ELA]

Michigan escaped at home against Minnesota.  Jett Howard left with a high ankle sprain, and was in a boot at the end.  That's trouble.  He's easily their most dynamic player

[847badgerfan]

I have this feeling that the Badgers are gonna lay an egg today. No idea why. Just a feeling.

[bayareabadger]

I have this feeling that the Badgers are gonna lay an egg today. No idea why. Just a feeling.

I mean, they are an underdog. So in this case, an egg with me and getting blown out.

i’m assuming Northwestern will have their full roster, but I am kind of curious.

[grillrat]

After MSU lost, I turned it to Maryland-Purdue, and my 9 year old said "can you put on another game, Purdue fans just booth refs the whole game.  It's annoying"

It was Courtney Greene on the floor.  The fans have a particular dislike for him.

Not sure if you've heard about it, but it has come to the point where Purdue fans will now drop $1000 bets AGAINST Purdue ATS when they find out that Greene will be officiating.

If you look at every other Big Ten ref over the last several years and the Purdue games they have done, you would expect that the record would be roughly 50/50 against the spread.  And in reality, within a game or two over a 30 to 40 game sample for each ref, that is true.  Even Bo Boroski.

Except for Greene.  A Purdue fan cranked the numbers recently and Purdue is something like 3-22 against the spread when Greene is officiating.

I have no idea what he is doing, whether he doesn't call fouls he should or whether he just doesn't like Purdue, but it is more than just a statistical anomaly.

[medinabuckeye1]

The tier system worked well this weekend.  There were no upsets.  The UW@NU game has been rescheduled for tonight which moved NU@UNL to Wednesday so I've put those back and done an update.  

The tiers are:

• PU, RU
• UW, MSU
• M, UMD, IA, IL, tOSU, PSU, IU, NU
• UNL
• BLANK
• MN

Upsets so far have been:


Note that all 14 teams are within +/-1 of the projection so at this point I don't think we need any updates.  Teams are:

• +1: tOSU, NU (both +2, -1), MN
• even:  PU (+1,-1), UW (+1,-1), MSU (+2,-2), M, UMD, IA (+1,-1), PSU (+1,-1), IU (+1,-1)
• -1:  RU(+1,-2), IL(+1,-2), UNL

The updated projected final standings/BTT seeds are:

• 18-2/29-2 Purdue
• 16-4/24-7 Rutgers
• 12-8/20-10 Wisconsin
• 11-9/19-12 Michigan State
• 10-10/18-13 Iowa
• 10-10/16-15 Michigan
• 10-10/19-12 Maryland
• 9-11/18-13 Ohio State
• 9-11/18-13 Penn State
• 9-11/18-13 Northwestern
• 9-11/18-13 Indiana
• 9-11/18-13 Illinois
• 7-13/14-17 Nebraska
• 1-19/7-23 Minnesota

Tiebreakers:
For the three-way tie at 10-10 between M, UMD, and IA:

• Iowa has a projected H2H2H of 2-0 because they do not visit Ann Arbor nor College Park.  
• Michigan ties UMD in H2H2H and beats UMD based on projected record against MSU because the Terps do not host the Spartans.  
• Maryland

For the five-way tie at 9-11 between IL, tOSU, PSU, IU, and NU, it is broken based on H2H2H2H:

• 4-2 Ohio State:  Does not travel to State College, does not host Indiana, won in Evanston.  
• 3-2 Penn State:  Does not travel to Bloomington, does not host NU nor tOSU, won in Champaign.  
• 4-3 Northwestern:  Does not travel to State College, won in Bloomington, lost at home to tOSU.  
• 3-3 Indiana:  Does not visit Columbus nor host Penn State, won in Champaign, lost at home to Northwestern.  
• 2-6 Illinois:  Lost at home to both PSU and IU.  

Thus, match-ups at the B1G Tournament at the United Center in Chicago, Illinois would be:
Wednesday, March 8, BTN:

• #11 Indiana vs #14 Minnesota, 830
• #12 Illinois vs #13 Nebraska, 6

Thursday, March 9, BTN:

• #5 Iowa vs IL/UNL, 230
• #6 Michigan vs IU/MN, 9
• #7 Maryland vs #10 Northwestern, 630
• #8 Ohio State vs #9 Penn State, noon

Friday, March 10, BTN:

• #1 Purdue vs tOSU/PSU, noon
• #2 Rutgers vs UMD/NU, 630
• #3 Wisconsin vs M/IU/MN, 9
• #4 Michigan State vs IA/IL/UNL, 230

Saturday, March 11, CBS:

• PU/tOSU/PSU vs MSU/IA/IL/UNL, 1
• RU/UMD/NU vs UW/M/IU/MN, 330

Sunday, March 12:

• PU/tOSU/PSU/MSU/IA/IL/UNL vs RU/UMD/NU/UW/M/IU/MN

And to answer @Brutus Buckeye 's every week question, tOSU and M would only meet in the BTT if they both made it to the CG.  


NOTE:
This is INCREDIBLY fluid, even more so than most years.  Right now:

• Three games separate projected #3 Wisconsin from projected #12 Illinois
• Two games separate projected #4 Michigan State from projected #12 Illinois
• One game separates projected #5 Iowa from projected #12 Illinois.  

Our current projected #12 Illinois could move all the way up to getting to take Wednesday AND Thursday off as a top-4 seed with just a couple of positive upsets.  Conversely, our projected #3 and #4 seeds (UW and MSU) could fall all the way to playing on Wednesday with a couple of negative upsets.  

[ELA]

I enjoyed when the announcer said the quiet part out loud that this COVID pause was "well timed coming off the loss to Michigan"

[847badgerfan]

The Badgers (12-6, 4-4 Big Ten), who have a thin margin for error on their best nights, were that team. They finished 9 of 16 from the line and committed too many self-inflicted errors elsewhere in a disappointing 66-63 loss that began a stretch of three games in six days. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I'm looking at this Illinois/Ohio State game tonight and I have no idea what to expect.

Ohio State:
The Buckeyes have played seven games since the ball dropped in Times Square and the first and last were great:

• A 16 point road win over Northwestern 
• A 16 point home win over Iowa.

The problem is that the five game stretch in between those two was a catastrophe. The five straight losses ranged from a pretty good two point loss to #1 Purdue to a downright embarrassing home loss to woeful Minnesota. 

Illinois:
The Illini are basically the opposite. They have played six games in January and the first and last were terrible:

• A 13 point road loss to Northwestern (the same Northwestern that Ohio State had just beaten by 16)
• A 15 point home loss to Indiana. 

In between those two the Illini had four really solid wins:

• By 10 over Wisconsin 
• By 16 over Nebraska on the road (same Nebraska that Ohio State recently lost to)
• By 9 over MSU
• By 18 on the road over Minnesota (same Minnesota that Ohio State recently lost to).

Hard to make much sense of that.

[ELA]

My first resume only Bracket of the year (2/3 SOR, 1/3 KenPom), for now using SOR to determine regular season champ, and KenPom for tourney champ

1/24 Update

NCAA
MIDWEST

• #1 PURDUE vs. #16 Northwestern State/SIU Edwardsville
• #8 Boise State vs. #9 Charleston
• #5 Auburn vs. #12 Oral Roberts
• #4 Marquette vs. #13 Marshall
• #3 Texas vs. #14 Dayton
• #6 Providence vs. #11 USC
• #7 INDIANA vs. #10 Missouri
• #2 Virginia vs. #15 Youngstown State

SOUTH

• #1 Alabama vs. #16 Grambling/Wagner
• #8 Kent State vs. #9 Nevada
• #5 TCU vs. #12 Sam Houston State
• #4 Xavier vs. #13 Liberty
• #3 Baylor vs. #14 Furman
• #6 Miami vs. #11 NORTHWESTERN
• #7 Saint Mary's vs. #10 MARYLAND
• #2 Tennessee vs. #15 Longwood

WEST

• #1 UCLA vs. #16 Norfolk State
• #8 RUTGERS vs. #9 NC State
• #5 San Diego State vs. #12 Creighton/PENN STATE
• #4 Gonzaga vs. #13 UC Santa Barbara
• #3 Kansas State vs. #14 Bradley
• #6 North Carolina vs. #11 IOWA
• #7 New Mexico vs. #10 ILLINOIS
• #2 Arizona vs. #15 Montana State

EAST

• #1 Houston vs. #16 Vermont
• #8 Duke vs. #9 Arkansas
• #5 Florida Atlantic vs. #12 Arizona State/WISCONSIN
• #4 Iowa State vs. #13 Iona
• #3 Connecticut vs. #14 Yale
• #6 Memphis vs. #11 Kentucky
• #7 MICHIGAN STATE vs. #10 Clemson
• #2 Kansas vs. #15 Colgate

NIT
LOGAN

• #1 Utah State vs. #8 Eastern Washington
• #4 Texas A&M vs. #5 Southern Miss
• #3 Utah vs. #6 Southern Illinois
• #2 Wake Forest vs. #7 Cornell

MORGANTOWN

• #1 West Virginia vs. #8 UMES
• #4 VCU vs. #5 Central Florida
• #3 Seton Hall vs. #6 MICHIGAN
• #2 Florida vs. #7 Kennesaw State

STILLWATER

• #1 Oklahoma State vs. #8 Milwaukee
• #4 Virginia Tech vs. #5 Santa Clara
• #3 North Texas vs. #6 St. John's
• #2 Mississippi State vs. #7 Quinnipiac

NORMAN

• #1 Oklahoma vs. #8 UNC Asheville
• #4 Pittsburgh vs. #5 Saint Louis
• #3 Utah Valley vs. #6 Oregon
• #2 OHIO STATE vs. #7 UM Lowell

BIG TEN TEAMS

• #1 Purdue
• #7 Indiana - moved up from Play-In Game
• #7 Michigan State - moved up from #9
• #8 Rutgers - dropped from #6
• #10 Illinois - dropped from #8
• #10 Maryland - moved up from #11
• #11 Northwestern - moved up from Play-In Game
• #11 Iowa - dropped from #10
• P-I Penn State - moved up from NIT
• P-I Wisconsin - dropped from #10

• NIT #2 Ohio State - dropped from NIT #1
• NIT #6 Michigan - dropped from NIT #4

• Nebraska - moved up from #4 team out of NIT to #3 team out

• Minnesota - n/a