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Topic: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

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bayareabadger

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1050 on: March 02, 2023, 03:07:57 PM »
They have looked better without him lately. Seems to be in a funk.
I think that’s true to a degree, but I don’t necessarily think his back up has played worlds better. I think he needs to shake that funk while also having other guys around him play up to the level they can

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1051 on: March 02, 2023, 04:47:43 PM »
If anyone is staying up late watching basketball, I’ll be at tonight’s UCLA-Arizona State basketball game airing on ESPN from Westwood. Courtesy of a buddy who I went to high school with in Texas. (We were trying for Saturday’s rivalry Vs the Arizona Wildcats but tickets weren’t working out.) Didn’t think I owned any UCLA crap to wear tonight, but this morning I found in my closet an unlicensed T-Shirt for the Covid-cancelled Holiday Bowl (2021) featuring the football helmets of UCLA & North Carolina State.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1052 on: March 02, 2023, 05:11:03 PM »
I doubt I will be up that late

Say Hi to Bill Walton for me
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1053 on: March 02, 2023, 06:30:25 PM »
Yeah, say hi and then punch him in the head. 

Of course, that might not affect anything.
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1054 on: March 02, 2023, 09:15:25 PM »
Woo-hoo!
Ohio State is not the only team to lose to the Gophers.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1055 on: March 02, 2023, 09:32:18 PM »
good game in Illinois
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1056 on: March 02, 2023, 09:46:11 PM »
Woo-hoo!
Ohio State is not the only team to lose to the Gophers.
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1057 on: March 02, 2023, 09:51:34 PM »
And the 2023 B1G title race is over. Purdue is outright Champion. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1058 on: March 02, 2023, 11:40:59 PM »
Final update to the tier projections:

  • 15-5/26-5 Purdue
  • 12-8/20-11 Iowa, wins tie with IU because they swept the Hoosiers
  • 12-8/21-10 Indiana
  • 11-8/19-11 Michigan State
  • 11-9/17-14 Michigan
  • 11-9/19-12 Rutgers
  • 11-9/20-11 Maryland
  • 11-9/20-11 Illinois
  • 11-9/20-11 Northwestern
  • 10-10/19-12 Penn State
  • 9-11/17-13 Wisconsin
  • 8-12/15-16 Nebraska
  • 5-15/13-18 Ohio State
  • 2-17/8-21 Minnesota
The first tiebreaker for the big 5-way tie at 11-9 is H2H2H2H2H:
  • 4-2 Michigan did not host the Illini nor the Scarlet Knights, won in Evanston and Piscataway
  • 3-2 Rutgers beats UMD and IL based on record against Purdue
  • 3-2 Maryland is behind RU and ahead of IL based on record against PU
  • 3-2 Illinois
  • 1-6 Northwestern  did not host the Terps, lost at home to RU and M.  

Based on these projections the match-ups for the BTT at the United Center in Chicago, Illinois would be:
Wednesday, March 8, BTN:
  • #11 Wisconsin vs #14 Minnesota, 830
  • #12 Nebraska vs #13 Ohio State, 6
Thursday, March 9, BTN:
  • #5 Michigan vs UNL/tOSU, 230
  • #6 Rutgers vs UW/MN, 9
  • #7 Maryland vs #10 Penn State, 630
  • #8 Illinois vs #9 Northwestern, noon
Friday, March 10, BTN:
  • #1 Purdue vs IL/NU, noon
  • #2 Iowa vs UMD/PSU, 630
  • #3 Indiana vs RU/UW/MN, 9
  • #4 Michigan State vs M/UNL/tOSU, 230
Saturday, March 11, CBS:
  • PU/IL/NU vs MSU/M/UNL/tOSU, 1
  • IA/UMD/PSU vs IU/RU/UW/MN, 330
Sunday, March 12, CBS:
  • PU/IL/NU/MSU/M/UNL/tOSU vs IA/UMD/PSU/IU/RU/UW/MN, 330


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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1059 on: March 02, 2023, 11:42:14 PM »
I've got norovirus.  Rub some dirt on it, I need to know when I can start bitching about Rutgers refusing to accomodate a school shooting costing us a double bye!
If the projection holds, MSU will get a double-bye.  

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1060 on: March 03, 2023, 12:09:57 AM »
A look at current standings and what remains, then some hypotheticals:

  • 14-5 Purdue, vs IL
  • 11-8 Indiana, vs M
  • 11-8 Iowa, vs UNL
  • 11-8 Maryland, at PSU
  • 11-8 Illinois at PU
  • 11-8 Northwestern, at RU
  • 11-8 Michigan, at IU
  • 10-8 Michigan State, vs tOSU
  • 10-9 Rutgers, vs NU
  • 9-10 Penn State, vs UMD
  • 8-11 Wisconsin, at MN
  • 8-11 Nebraska, at IA
  • 5-14 Ohio State, at MSU
  • 2-16 Minnesota, vs UW

The 11-8 teams:
So the Michigan/Indiana winner will finish in second place at 12-8 but they could be anything from alone in second place to in a five-way tie with any or all of Iowa (vsUNL), Maryland (atPSU), Illinois (atPU), and Northwestern (atRU).  

Any of the 11-8 teams that win this weekend will be at least tied for 2nd and they will *PROBABLY* get a double-bye.  The only way they would *NOT* get a double-bye is if there are more than three of them in which case the tiebreaker loser(s) would have to play on Thursday.  

10-8 Michigan State:
Assuming they don't suddenly schedule a make-up of the MN game, the Spartans can't tie anyone.  They'll either beat tOSU and finish 11-8 or lose to the Buckeyes (whom they obliterated a couple weeks ago in Columbus) and finish 10-9.  If they win they'll be behind any 11-8 teams that win this weekend, if they lose they'll be behind all of the current 11-8 teams plus Rutgers if they beat NU.  

10-9 Rutgers:
If Rutgers wins they'll catch any of the 11-8 teams that lose this weekend in a tie at 11-9.  If they lose they'll tie PSU at 10-10 assuming that the Lions beat the Terps.  Whether PSU wins or not is irrelevant because RU swept them this season so they would win a tie and WILL be seeded ahead of the Nittany Lions.  


9-10 Penn State:
If they win they get the #10 seed (no matter what RU does).  If they lose they could still finish alone in 10th place or tied with Wisconsin and/or Nebraska for 10th, 11th, and 12th.  PSU swept the Badgers and split with the Huskers so they'd win a two-way tie with Wisconsin.  They'd also win the three-way tie as the H2H2H would be:
  • 3-1 Penn State (swept UW, split with UNL)
  • 2-1 Nebraska (split with PSU, won only meeting with UW)
  • 0-3 Wisconsin 
The remaining possibility is a 2-way tie with Nebraska at 10-10.  In that case H2H would not be determinative because they split.  The next tiebreaker is record against the best team(s) in the league, then the next, etc.  Since neither team beat Purdue that would move down to record against the teams that finish 12-8 which would *NOT* include Iowa since Nebraska would have to beat them to get into this tie.  How that would come out depends on which teams finish 12-8.  

8-11 Wisconsin and Nebraska:
Wisconsin will be playing on Wednesday because the best they could do is a tie with Penn State and they lose that tie regardless of whether or not Nebraska is also in it (see above).  Thus, Wisconsin cannot overtake PSU for the #10 seed so they WILL play on Wednesday.  Still, beating Minnesota increases the likelihood that they get to play Minnesota again rather than Ohio State.  

Nebraska could theoretically get out of playing on Wednesday with a win at Iowa and a Penn State loss at home to Maryland but that is pretty unlikely.  That said, they are tied with Wisconsin and won the only meeting between the two so if they win they'll at least get the #11 seed and a game against Minnesota on Wednesday.  

The bottom feeders:
Ohio State and Minnesota are locked into the #13 and #14 seeds respectively.  

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1061 on: March 03, 2023, 12:47:04 AM »
Wisconsin swept Penn State @medinabuckeye1. It's honestly one of the few sources of joy from this season. 

Also, this season, it irks me deeply. I do not like this thing where I functionally know the team's best ballhandler has ability, but is simply not playing close to as well as I think he is able to.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1062 on: March 03, 2023, 12:58:38 AM »
Just got back for the Kohl center ... what a game, great seats thanks to a buddy.  Badger fans were great.  Got to hang with former Badger play TJ Schlundt .. mutual friend, great dude, he loves the badgers.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1063 on: March 03, 2023, 01:22:53 AM »
Just got back for the Kohl center ... what a game, great seats thanks to a buddy.  Badger fans were great.  Got to hang with former Badger play TJ Schlundt .. mutual friend, great dude, he loves the badgers.
Ahh TJ. That guy had an odd high point of his career. 

 

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