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Topic: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2021, 04:26:48 PM »
#1 2021 recruit JT Tuilomoau commits to the Buckeyes out of Washington. Defensive end.

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #100 on: July 04, 2021, 05:53:19 PM »
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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #102 on: July 06, 2021, 08:21:09 AM »
 https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2021/07/123392/by-the-numbers-why-ohio-state-s-2021-recruiting-class-got-that-much-better-after-jt-tuimoloau-s-decision

Ohio State has signed more five-stars than the rest of the Big Ten combined in the past decade. The Buckeyes’ dominance of the Big Ten is no secret. But the gap in talent between them and the rest of the conference has only grown in recent years. Between the 2012 and 2021 classes – a decade-long span of time encapsulating both the Meyer and Day tenures – Ohio State has signed 27 five-star recruits and the other 13 Big Ten teams have signed 24 five-stars. The on-field curb-stomping of the rest of the Big Ten is no accident given what happens off of it.

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2021, 10:02:38 AM »
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2021/07/123392/by-the-numbers-why-ohio-state-s-2021-recruiting-class-got-that-much-better-after-jt-tuimoloau-s-decision

Ohio State has signed more five-stars than the rest of the Big Ten combined in the past decade. The Buckeyes’ dominance of the Big Ten is no secret. But the gap in talent between them and the rest of the conference has only grown in recent years. Between the 2012 and 2021 classes – a decade-long span of time encapsulating both the Meyer and Day tenures – Ohio State has signed 27 five-star recruits and the other 13 Big Ten teams have signed 24 five-stars. The on-field curb-stomping of the rest of the Big Ten is no accident given what happens off of it.
Fellow Ohio State fans, we are living in amazing times.  Following up on Ty's post:
2021 per Scout:
  • tOSU is #1 in the B1G by a LARGE margin over M.  The margin is so large that #2 M is closer to #7 Iowa than they are to #1 tOSU.  
  • Nine 5* recruits signed with B1G schools; six with tOSU and one each with M, UW, and UMD.  
2022 per Scout:
  • tOSU is #1 in the B1G by a LARGE margin over PSU.  The margin is so large that #2 PSU is closer to #4 RU than they are to #1 tOSU.  
  • Five 5* recruits signed with B1G schools; four with tOSU and one with M.  
2020 per Scout:
  • tOSU was #1 in the B1G by a LARGE margin over M.  The margin is so large that #2 M is closer to #5 UW than they are to #1 tOSU.  
  • Four 5* recruits signed with B1G schools; three with tOSU and one with UMD.  
2019 per Scout:
  • tOSU was #3 in the B1G behind #1 M and #2 PSU but note that tOSU had the highest average in the league.  The Buckeyes were third only because they had less recruits (17) than #2 PSU (23) and #1 M (26).  
  • Seven 5* recruits signed with B1G schools; three with tOSU, two with M, and one each with PSU and UW.  
2018 per Scout:
  • tOSU was #1 in the B1G by a significant but not huge margin over #2 PSU.  After PSU there was a HUGE gap before #3 M.  
  • Six 5* recruits signed with B1G schools; three each with tOSU and PSU.  
2017 per Scout:

  • tOSU was #1 in the B1G over #2 M.  After M there was a HUGE gap before #3 PSU.  
  • Eight 5* recruits signed with B1G schools; five with tOSU, two with M, and one with Iowa.  

The talent gap between tOSU and the rest of the B1G is enormous:

For the 2017-2021 classes the Buckeyes have 20 5* recruits, the rest of the B1G combined have 14.  

Doing more with less:
  • Wisconsin:  Give credit to the Badgers.  Their recruiting isn't anything to write home about but they are consistently one of the best teams in the league.  
Doing less with more:
  • Michigan:  The recruiting rankings suggest that Michigan should be tOSU's closest competitor in the league . . .
  • Maryland:  They shouldn't be a bottom-feeder with their recruits.  


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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #104 on: July 06, 2021, 10:39:30 AM »
Where was all that talent on the 49-20 night?

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #105 on: July 06, 2021, 02:48:59 PM »
Where was all that talent on the 49-20 night?
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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #106 on: July 06, 2021, 04:36:28 PM »
Where was all that talent on the 49-20 night?
I know you already know this (smart ass) but talent doesn't guarantee a win EVERY time, what it does is make wins a lot more likely in the aggregate.  Ie, in the last four years tOSU has finished:
  • 5-0, won B1GCG in 2020
  • 9-0, won B1GCG in 2019
  • 8-1, won B1GCG in 2018 but lost 49-20 to PU
  • 8-1, won B1GCG in 2017
While Purdue has finished:
  • 2-4 in 2020
  • 3-6 in 2019
  • 5-4 in 2018
  • 4-5 in 2017


Purdue pulled off a monumental upset in 2018 but . . .

Purdue has an odd knack for defeating obviously superior tOSU teams.  The boilermakers won the last game (the 49-20 game that you referenced in 2018), two of the last four, and three of the last six.  Oddly, Purdue can't seem to translate that into beating other teams.  From 2009-present the Boilermakers are 3-3 against the Buckeyes.  For comparison:
  • Michigan State is 3-6
  • Iowa is 1-3
  • Penn State is 2-9
  • Nebraska is 1-5
  • Wisconsin is 1-9
  • Michigan is 1-10
  • Northwestern is 0-4
  • Minnesota is 0-5
  • Rutgers is 0-6
  • Maryland is 0-6
  • Illinois is 0-8
  • Indiana is 0-11


Despite having a VASTLY better record against Ohio State than any other B1G team over the last 12 years, the Boilermakers only have a winning record against one B1G team over that timeframe:
  • .636, 7-4 vs IL
  • .500, 3-3 vs tOSU
  • .500, 1-1 vs UMD
  • .455, 5-6 vs IU
  • .429, 3-4 vs UNL
  • .333, 3-6 vs IA
  • .300, 3-7 vs MN
  • .250, 2-5 vs NU
  • .200, 1-4 vs M
  • .000, 0-1 vs RU
  • .000, 0-5 vs PSU
  • .000, 0-6 vs MSU
  • .000, 0-11 vs UW


So yes, a talent gap can certainly be overcome in an individual game or even one season but the more games you include in the sample, the more likely the team with more talent will come out on top.  

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #107 on: August 25, 2021, 02:29:03 PM »
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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2021, 02:36:04 PM »
BB that your collection?
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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2021, 02:58:36 PM »
BB that your collection?
Yessir. 

Found 'em in an old shoe box. 

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #110 on: August 25, 2021, 05:50:43 PM »
CJ Stroud named OSU starting QB. Wanted him at Michigan bad. Damn bastards. 

Wonder what this means for Kyle McCord & Quinn Ewers? With Ewers reclassifying and joining the 2021 class- Ohio State is bringing in TWO OMGEEEERD FIVE STAAARZ at QB. Quinn Ewers is ranked as the #1 QB and #1 player in the 2021 class and McCord is ranked as the #6 QB and #28 player. 

OSU has an embarrassment of riches at the QB position. They are quickly becoming QB-U. 

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Re: 2021 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #111 on: August 25, 2021, 06:46:52 PM »
CJ Stroud named OSU starting QB. Wanted him at Michigan bad. Damn bastards.

Wonder what this means for Kyle McCord & Quinn Ewers? With Ewers reclassifying and joining the 2021 class- Ohio State is bringing in TWO OMGEEEERD FIVE STAAARZ at QB. Quinn Ewers is ranked as the #1 QB and #1 player in the 2021 class and McCord is ranked as the #6 QB and #28 player.

OSU has an embarrassment of riches at the QB position. They are quickly becoming QB-U.
Let’s see if he can go into Minnesota and play?

I always cringe when the team I like is inexperienced at QB.  Day does a really good job of protecting them- rolling the pocket- RPOs with multiple run and pass options- max protect.
But there comes a time in most games where the  QB has to lead and make something happen off script.

word in camp is McCord is really really good- actually pushed Stoud as true freshman. 

probably a safe bet at least one of them hits the portal after the season.
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