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his race had nothing to do with him being a Heisman trophy finalist, so knock it off please. Kid was the highest rated player in CFB according to PFF and he's going to be the #1 pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. he is simply put an awesome football player.

Hmm.  Maybe you're right.

But I do have a question:  how many past highest-rated defenders were Heisman finalists?  What color were they?

You throw Derrick Thomas out there like you have never even heard of Lawrence Taylor. Amateur hour.

This isn't just about famous names.
Go look up Corey Moore.
George Selvie.
Scooby Wright.
Will Sutton.
Trent Murphy.

I could list 50 other guys with better statistical seasons than Hutchinson's.  But I'm wrong because I don't worship PFF.

Ohhh

Tell us how you quantified that one!

Well, quite simple really. Alabama has a Heisman winner who isn't a defensive player, a great defensive player, and a bunch of the most talented guys in the country. Georgia has a fleet of great players and can lose one or three and still be great. Cincinnati has two of the best secondary players in the country, but obviously they wouldn't start for any other D-1 program. So that leaves Michigan, which has the best defensive player in the country, another DE that is raw but talented, and a bunch of average to above average guys who are playoff bound pretty much due to one guy. Taking Hutchinson off Michigan probably leads to them not going to the playoffs, not winning the B1G, not beating OSU, and not doing any of the things that they are taking a victory lap for right now. Which seems important.

the only defensive player ever to win the award is a black guy. the last player Michigan sent to the award ceremony was Jabrill Peppers- a black guy that played defense- and who didn't belong there at all to be honest with.

has nothing to do with his race and everything to do with him being an incredible player, his team being in the playoff, and the shiny helmet he wears- which is literally the shiniest of the shiny and whose fanbase just might be the largest in the nation and whose team was the most viewed team on television and also the most attended in-person this season.

Could you answer my question, please?

So to support your assertion, you provide more assertions?

Mkay.  That sounds about right.

I mean buddy, you are point to sacks. Sacks! That's like one to two plays a game, and thinking that is the whole deal! It's objectively crazy, yet here we are.

You're citing a DT with 85 tackles, 21.5 of which were behind the line, and 12 sacks as 'not particularly special?'  

10 passes defended, 28 hurries, and the previous season he had 2 pick-sixes to show off his athleticism.  

Get all the stats you want, friend.  You made a stupid claim and can't support it with anything besides "because I said so."

I mean buddy, you are point to sacks. Sacks! That's like one to two plays a game, and thinking that is the whole deal! It's objectively crazy, yet here we are.

Where did I specify only sacks matter?  You're inventing shit now.  Please stop.