2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

[betarhoalphadelta]

Purdue is a young talented team growing up. Much different team when the steady presence of williams is on the floor though. He opens it up. Edey will be a load in a year, but his transition to conference play has been rough.

[bayareabadger]

Man that dude. Decided to transfer, chose Michigan but couldn't get in. Then chose Howard, then opted out. Pretty much just wasted a year when he'd probably be getting some pretty good looks on Purdue this year.

I can't recall why he was mad enough at Purdue to leave. I suppose if Michigan had been able to take him, it wouldn't looked not bad right now. 

[ELA]

MSU winning on the road against Duke is making more and more sense by the day

[betarhoalphadelta]

I can't recall why he was mad enough at Purdue to leave. I suppose if Michigan had been able to take him, it wouldn't looked not bad right now.

He was listening to bad advice... From his mom.

She thought he was NBA ready, and that Painter and his system wasn't showcasing him enough.

So he transferred to Michigan, then to Howard, then opted out to prepare for the NBA draft after Makur got injured.

We'll see how that works out for him.

[ELA]

He was listening to bad advice... From his mom.

She thought he was NBA ready, and that Painter and his system wasn't showcasing him enough.

So he transferred to Michigan, then to Howard, then opted out to prepare for the NBA draft after Makur got injured.

We'll see how that works out for him.

He's a long, athletic defender, who is a net negative on offense, and has a weird impression of his own skill set.  He dropped MSU, because they told him he wasn't a PG.

I see him having a few years in the G League, and coming up on 10 day contracts, and then settling in Europe

[bayareabadger]

He was listening to bad advice... From his mom.

She thought he was NBA ready, and that Painter and his system wasn't showcasing him enough.

So he transferred to Michigan, then to Howard, then opted out to prepare for the NBA draft after Makur got injured.

We'll see how that works out for him.

One of his last acts was chasing Wisconsin's second-leading scorer off the team and eventually out of the sport. 

Also, the obsession with "showcasing" is always weird. NBA teams draft off potential so much. Getting showcased with his skill set is a great way to show teams where he's VERY weak. 

[medinabuckeye1]

I wasn't able to see the PU/tOSU game last night but it looks like I'm better off for that, ugh.  

The Buckeyes led nearly the entire game but fell short late.  From the play-by-play:

• Back and forth for the first ~12 minutes until 21-21 with 7:24 to go in the first.  
• 11-0 tOSU run in about two minutes gave the Buckeyes their largest lead at 32-21 with 5:21 to go.  
• 10-5 PU run to close the first half at 37-31 Buckeyes.  
• Back and forth for the first ~11 minutes of the second half such that the Buckeyes still led by five (50-45) from 9:27 until 8:17 left in the game.  
• 7-0 PU run gave the Boilermakers their first lead since early in the first half at 52-50 with 6:19 remaining.  
• 10-2 run gave the Buckeyes at six point lead at 60-54 with just 3:35 to go.  
• 13-5 Boilermaker run to close the game at 67-65.  

Everything from 60-54 Buckeyes with 3:35 to go:

• PU hit a three, 60-57 Buckeyes
• tOSU turnover.  
• PU hit a bucket, 60-59 Buckeyes
• tOSU miss.  
• tOSU ORB.  
• Foul on PU.  
• tOSU made FT, 61-59 Buckeyes
• tOSU missed FT.  
• tOSU ORB.  
• tOSU hit a three, 64-59 Buckeyes with 2:08 to go.  
• PU hit a bucket, 64-61 Buckeyes with 1:48 to go.  
• tOSU miss.  
• tOSU ORB.  
• tOSU turnover.  
• PU three, 64 all with 0:52 to go.  
• tOSU miss.  
• PU three, 67-64 PU with 0:02 to go.  
• PU Foul.  
• tOSU made FT, 67-65 PU.  
• tOSU missed FT (I assume this was intentional).  
• PU rebound.  
• Game, 67-65 PU.  

That would have been incredibly frustrating to watch!

[MaximumSam]

Not great but also not as excruciating as the end of the Illinois game

[betarhoalphadelta]

What was interesting was Jaden Ivey. I really like this kid.

Clearly he has the green light from Painter to shoot 3s, because he went 0-4 in the first half, despite the fact that his season 3FG% is 21.2%. Painter isn't going to give you minutes like that if you're doing the opposite of what he's told you.

But then in that last 3:35 he made his only two other 3pt attempts (one at 3:12 to get to 57-60 and then one with 5 seconds left to put Purdue ahead for good, 67-64, and made another 2pt jumper in between). Absolute daggers, all of them, from a true frosh. 

As I've said, this team is young and inexperienced, and I think they'll be too inconsistent to actually challenge for the league title this year. But this is a team that could surprise someone in March, and I think the 2021-22 team, especially with the recruits coming in, is going to be the conference favorite.

[medinabuckeye1]

Really this is just mostly for my benefit but sharing it here:
Ohio State against B1G teams (record / team / tOSU record against / where / where remaining):

• 7-1 Michigan:  0-0, vs
• 6-1 Iowa:  0-0, @ vs
• 5-2 Wisconsin:  0-0, @
• 6-3 Purdue:  0-2
• 6-3 Illinois:  1-0 @, vs
• 4-4 Minnesota:  0-1 @
• 3-4 Indiana:  0-0, vs
• 3-5 Rutgers:  2-0
• 3-5 Northwestern:  1-1
• 2-4 Michigan State:  0-0, @ vs
• 2-6 Maryland:  0-0, @
• 0-5 Nebraska:  1-0 vs
• 0-5 Penn State:  0-0, @ vs(maybe, postponed)

So the Buckeyes are: 

• 1-3 against teams .500 or better with five games remaining. 
• 4-1 against teams <.500 with six or seven remaining. 

The Buckeyes appear to have a ridiculously easy schedule relative to the league.  The games not played are:

• @ 7-1 Michigan
• vs 5-2 Wisconsin
• vs 4-4 Minnesota
• @ 3-4 Indiana
• @ 0-5 Nebraska
• Possibly vs 0-5 Penn State

My guess:

• 5-4 current record
• 1-4 in the five games against M, IA, UW, and IL
• 1-2 in the three games against IU and MSU (I just can't see MSU as an easy game)
• 1-1 or 2-1 in the two or three games against UMD and PSU
• 8-11 or 9-11

[MaximumSam]

What was interesting was Jaden Ivey. I really like this kid.

Clearly he has the green light from Painter to shoot 3s, because he went 0-4 in the first half, despite the fact that his season 3FG% is 21.2%. Painter isn't going to give you minutes like that if you're doing the opposite of what he's told you.

But then in that last 3:35 he made his only two other 3pt attempts (one at 3:12 to get to 57-60 and then one with 5 seconds left to put Purdue ahead for good, 67-64, and made another 2pt jumper in between). Absolute daggers, all of them, from a true frosh.

As I've said, this team is young and inexperienced, and I think they'll be too inconsistent to actually challenge for the league title this year. But this is a team that could surprise someone in March, and I think the 2021-22 team, especially with the recruits coming in, is going to be the conference favorite.

He must. I was sure we would lose when Purdue had the ball and it was tied, given that we couldn't defend the big guys. That their final shot was that shot was crazy and shows the coach likes the kid a heck of a lot.

[grillrat]

He must. I was sure we would lose when Purdue had the ball and it was tied, given that we couldn't defend the big guys. That their final shot was that shot was crazy and shows the coach likes the kid a heck of a lot.

He has more faith in the kid than the fans did.
There is a thread on the Rivals Purdue board entitled "No No No.......YES!"

Purdue is now just 1 game down to OSU on the all time series record.  If / When Purdue wins two more games against OSU, they will be back to having a winning record against every team in the Big Ten.

[bayareabadger]

UW has NW today. This always worries me. I’m also annoyed the game got moved up. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

He has more faith in the kid than the fans did.
There is a thread on the Rivals Purdue board entitled "No No No.......YES!"

Purdue is now just 1 game down to OSU on the all time series record.  If / When Purdue wins two more games against OSU, they will be back to having a winning record against every team in the Big Ten.

That's what I find so great about it... On Hammer & Rails people were talking about cringing every time they see him pull up for 3. And as I pointed out, he's 21.2% from deep so far on the season. He went 0-4 in the first half.

But under 4 minutes to play, in clutch situations, on the road, as a true frosh, he swishes two daggers? 

#money