2018 Coaching Changes thread

[ELA]

Lane Kiffin's twitter is an absolute gold mine.

That's what makes me wonder if he actually wants to get back to a P5 school.  He really seems like he might be way more in his element there, being himself.  Being able to do stuff you can't really do at a Tennessee or a USC.

[Mdot21]

Hearing Joe Moorehead's name with Miss St.

he should hold out. He's better than that job.

[Mdot21]

That's what makes me wonder if he actually wants to get back to a P5 school.  He really seems like he might be way more in his element there, being himself.  Being able to do stuff you can't really do at a Tennessee or a USC.

agree. He's not a grown up. He belongs where he is at.

[Brutus Buckeye]

I don't get the Gundy thing.  He's been at his alma mater for a good while with Boone's $$$ in hand.  What's the draw here?

From Gundy's vantage point, it would behoove him to get a desperate Tennessee program into a bidding war with T Boone Pickens. 

[Mdot21]

From Gundy's vantage point, it would behoove him to get a desperate Tennessee program into a bidding war with T Boone Pickens.

yeah, really think this is the case. especially since "rumors" are leaking that the Tennessee offer is $8 million a year. That can't possibly true. Can it? I think Gundy is a heckuva coach, but $8 million?

Might just be Gundy trying to get a fat raise from Okie State's sugar daddy.

[Honestbuckeye]

I don't get the Gundy thing.  He's been at his alma mater for a good while with Boone's $$$ in hand.  What's the draw here?

I don't get the Gundy thing.  He's been at his alma mater for a good while with Boone's $$$ in hand.  What's the draw here?

after the way they treated Schiano- this just makes me laugh.  I wouldn't let that bonehead on my campus - unless I could not care less how bad we looked from a public perception standpoint.  Plus- SEC will chew him up and spit him out- unless he does something he has never done before- get a defense.

[MaximumSam]

Gundy has been there a long time, so there might be an itch to leave.  But whenever wacky numbers get leaked it screams to me that the agent wants the home team to ante up.

[fezzador]

Is UT that much better a job than oSu these days?  I don't think the Vols have the financial backing of someone like ole Boone Pickens.

To put it in perspective - though the chances of either program winning a natty are about the same (i.e. damn near zero), oSu at least competes for conference championships.  Tennessee hasn't even come close in a dog's age.

[Mdot21]

Is UT that much better a job than oSu these days?  I don't think the Vols have the financial backing of someone like ole Boone Pickens.

To put it in perspective - though the chances of either program winning a natty are about the same (i.e. damn near zero), oSu at least competes for conference championships.  Tennessee hasn't even come close in a dog's age.

Pickens is one guy. Vols have bigger fan base, alumni base, more donors to pool from. Plus they do have Jimmy Haslam- who owns the Browns and is probably just as rich as Pickens. Both of them are gajillionaires with more money than they could ever spend in 100 lifetimes.

Tennessee is definitely a better job IMO. Still think you can win a national title there. Don't think you could probably ever do that at Oklahoma State.

[fezzador]

Pickens is one guy. Vols have bigger fan base, alumni base, more donors to pool from. Plus they do have Jimmy Haslam- who owns the Browns and is probably just as rich as Pickens. Both of them are gajillionaires with more money than they could ever spend in 100 lifetimes.

Tennessee is definitely a better job IMO. Still think you can win a national title there. Don't think you could probably ever do that at Oklahoma State.

Hahahahahahahaha

On a serious note, even shitty pro teams have uber-wealthy owners.  But the Browns may well be the worst franchise in all of pro sports.  Not really something to be proud of.

That said, Tennessee absolutely does have a huge advantage as far as history goes.  But it's been ten years since they've won their own division (think about it - Missouri won the East twice since then).  Kids these days don't really care if a program won a hundred championships when their grandfathers were duking it out on the gridiron.  They buy into offensive systems, uniforms, access to the NFL, etc, and a lot of non-helmet programs can offer that.

[Mdot21]

Hahahahahahahaha

On a serious note, even shitty pro teams have uber-wealthy owners.  But the Browns may well be the worst franchise in all of pro sports.  Not really something to be proud of.

That said, Tennessee absolutely does have a huge advantage as far as history goes.  But it's been ten years since they've won their own division (think about it - Missouri won the East twice since then).  Kids these days don't really care if a program won a hundred championships when their grandfathers were duking it out on the gridiron.  They buy into offensive systems, uniforms, access to the NFL, etc, and a lot of non-helmet programs can offer that.

Tennessee has a stadium that hold 106,000+. They've got tons of tradition. Lot of former and current NFL guys. Facilities. Play in the SEC.
I could definitely see them being "back". All it takes is the right hire.

I mean last recruiting class they were all set to get top rated players at QB/WR- #1 QB in 2017 and the #2 WR. QB Hunter Johnson out of Indiana and WR Tee Higgins from the state of Tennessee were set to come- committed to Butch Jones. Season started to tank, Butch got put on the hot-seat- both of them flipped to Clemson.

They'll be able to recruit talent. If Butch Jones could, a real coach could.

[fezzador]

Tennessee has a stadium that hold 106,000+. They've got tons of tradition. Lot of former and current NFL guys. Facilities. Play in the SEC.
I could definitely see them being "back". All it takes is the right hire.

I mean last recruiting class they were all set to get top rated players at QB/WR- #1 QB in 2017 and the #2 WR. QB Hunter Johnson out of Indiana and WR Tee Higgins from the state of Tennessee were set to come- committed to Butch Jones. Season started to tank, Butch got put on the hot-seat- both of them flipped to Clemson.

They'll be able to recruit talent. If Butch Jones could, a real coach could.

We'll see how serious UT is with their next coaching hire.  They need to stop with the "safe" picks and get someone splashy.  If he didn't burn bridges, Kiffin would be splashy.  Bryan Harsin from Boise State could be decent (he was HC at Arky State and was co-OC at Texas, so he could recruit there).

[Mdot21]

We'll see how serious UT is with their next coaching hire.  They need to stop with the "safe" picks and get someone splashy.  If he didn't burn bridges, Kiffin would be splashy.  Bryan Harsin from Boise State could be decent (he was HC at Arky State and was co-OC at Texas, so he could recruit there).

I think Joe Moorehead would be a heck of a hire.

[847badgerfan]

The problem with Tennessee or Nebraska or _________ being "back" is that the wins they get in conference have to come from another team. So, for Tennessee to be "back" it would take Georgia to lose more games. Just an example.

Something must come down for something else to go up.